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Forum topic by Karda posted 06-18-2021 11:36 PM 676 views 0 times favorited 37 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Karda

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06-18-2021 11:36 PM

Hi i have a problem with my TS fence. The problem is the saw, it a craftsman piece of junk, but i got it before I new better and am stuck with it. What is happening is that when I want to clamp the fence down it clamps right on the end of the miter slot and don’t hold. what can I do. the picture shows what is happening, but i left some of the slot exposed so it would be clear what is going on. The only solution I have found is to put another piece between the work and the fence widening the gap but thats a pain


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GT350

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#1 posted 06-19-2021 12:09 AM

I had an old Craftsman and I ended up buying the Craftsman XR2424 fence and it worked great, I never could get the original fence to lock down square to the blade without measuring the front and back each time.

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Karda

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#2 posted 06-19-2021 01:20 AM

that is certainly a good fence but If i could afford the fence I would buy a new and better saw hers a pic of my saw

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#3 posted 06-19-2021 01:53 AM

I have one of those plastic C-man saws with what looks like the same fence, although now it is pretty much just used as a router table and the occasional cross cut using a sled. The tab in the back of the fence is just a bit longer than the depth of the miter slot, so it catches just below it. Not a lot, but just enough as long as you don’t go gorilla on the fence when cutting. Looks exactly the same as what you show in your first picture. The only way I can see it not holding is if it gets raised somehow, just before pushing the clamping handle down. Have you tried keeping downard pressure on the back of the fence when clamping, or adjusting the rear clamp tension via that nut on the back?

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#4 posted 06-19-2021 01:59 AM

thanks Brad I’ll check that out, I didn’t know that that could be adjusted

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#5 posted 06-19-2021 05:44 AM

Could you just open up the holes those fasteners mount through? Then lower the tab a bit.

I had a Ryobi BTS10 prior to upgrading to my Delta T2. It was “gifted” to me without a fence. Rather than try to find an OEM replacement (which looked a lot like the one on your c-man), I made my own. For around $30.

That diy fence served me very well. Made the saw so much more enjoyable to use.

The new Delta has a Biesemeyer that comes stock with it. Still, I even did a diy upgrade with it as well to increase the cut capacity.

Point is, with a little ingenuity, just about any saw’s fence can be upgraded.

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Karda

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#6 posted 06-19-2021 05:55 AM

yea but with that ingenuity only work if you have the tools and the skill to use them. i can think of a couple upgrades that might work but one involves welding the other making a new clamp that is wider. i don’t have the tools ot skill for that kind of work. tomorrow I’ll check and see if the clamp can be adjusted

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#7 posted 06-19-2021 11:08 AM

You coud try flipping the black piece at the end.
if it is wide enough, the two arises of the piece will be pushing on the edge of the table.

-- Sylvain, Brussels, Belgium, Europe - The more I learn, the more there is to learn

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Karda

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#8 posted 06-19-2021 03:23 PM

ok I’ll try that

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#9 posted 06-19-2021 09:40 PM



yea but with that ingenuity only work if you have the tools and the skill to use them. i can think of a couple upgrades that might work but one involves welding the other making a new clamp that is wider. i don t have the tools ot skill for that kind of work. tomorrow I ll check and see if the clamp can be adjusted

- Karda

With that attitude the US would still be subject to the UK. The Apollo 13 astronauts would have died in space. Randy Quaid and Will Smith would never have defeated the aliens.

A fence is a pretty simple component. Like my last post, I’d probably start by opening the existing holes. But a DIY fence doesn’t have to be complex. And can be done with minimal tools.

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Karda

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#10 posted 06-19-2021 09:54 PM

yea that is one of my biggest problems, I have been working all my life to counter it. i dismantled the fence I reversed the black thing, won’t work that way. it is as long as it is there is no way to get it to catch lower on the table. the only way i can see to fix it is to add a piece of metal that will span the miter slot to the black thing. The only way that can be done is to weld it

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#11 posted 06-20-2021 06:34 AM



yea that is one of my biggest problems, I have been working all my life to counter it. i dismantled the fence I reversed the black thing, won t work that way. it is as long as it is there is no way to get it to catch lower on the table. the only way i can see to fix it is to add a piece of metal that will span the miter slot to the black thing. The only way that can be done is to weld it

- Karda

No worries. We all have our struggles. Not too long ago I wouldn’t have considered myself mechanically inclined. It really comes down to confidence. And a decision to just give it a shot.

Tasks don’t need to be complicated or esoteric. And there are often a variety of ways to skin a cat. Maybe it means failing a few times. But with each failure you come away with some new knowledge.

For your issue, I’d go a ton of other routes before trying my hand at welding. I’m surprised you can’t drop the tab just a bit lower. Looks like you’ve got about 1/4” of steel above the top fastener. Doesn’t look like you’d need much movement to get it below the miter slot.

Thinking out loud, is there enough clearance between the tab and table to slip a U nut over the bottom of the tab? They’re pretty low profile, while also being fairly rigid. Might just add enough length to it for adequate engagement.

For reference, this is what I’m thinking of…

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#12 posted 06-20-2021 01:19 PM

Karda – the problem only exist if your fence is over the miter bar slot, correct? When you get in that situation just clamp a 1” x 3” onto the face of the fence which allow you to slide the fence over another 3/4” to catch the back edge of the table next to that slot. Send me an email with your address and I’ll even send you a set of clamps to use for free. I have these and have never used them. Don’t over think this.

https://www.rockler.com/universal-fence-clamps

-- NorthWoodsMan

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#13 posted 06-20-2021 03:37 PM

I would try a thinish flat, narrow piece of metal a couple of inches long stuck on the fence with double faced tape to the clamping area.
Simple nearly cost free test and nothing to lose.

I have used the clamps from rockler shown above but sometimes that is a pain also but quite handy at times.

-- Just a barn cat, now gone to cat heaven.

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Karda

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#14 posted 06-20-2021 05:24 PM

thanks for the tape idea. My next big challenge is to get my fence put back together. have you heard the difference between a man and a boy, a man has learned to put together what he has disassembled, well I am still a preteen.

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#15 posted 06-20-2021 06:18 PM

A bazillion years ago, give or take forty-five, I altered a fence like this by adding a piece of metal to back the stock one, which solved a few problems, though not set up ones.

For accurate set ups, I invented a solution, which proved useful for not only set ups, but for alinging the saw and as a tool for cabinet work:

https://www.instructables.com/Table-Saw-Set-up-Guide-Gauge/

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