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pontic

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06-17-2021 10:34 PM

I plan on replacing my carpenter bee infested pressure treated pine front entry deck with steel posts and laminated white oak beams bolted to them and a white oak deck floor screwed to the beams. then a white oak set of stairs. Should I use Steel for the railing or red oak.
I don’t think the carpenter bees will eat into white oak as it is too hard for them or, at least it will take longer.
Any thoughts?

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum


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Foghorn

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#1 posted 06-17-2021 11:30 PM

Go with red balau or ipe. Even better than white oak if the price is comparable in your area.

-- Darrel

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#2 posted 06-18-2021 12:03 AM

I replaced some arms on my Carriage garage door opener with some scrap white oak and no more carpenters bees. My experience says you are on the right track. They were ruining the pine.

-- Jeff Horton * Kudzu Craft skin boats* www.kudzucraft.com

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#3 posted 06-18-2021 11:26 AM

I wouldn’t use red oak outside, it’s not rot resistant at all. If you can get white oak for the railing, why not continue with the same theme? Otherwise go with a steel railing.

-- Jeremy, in the Acadian forests

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#4 posted 06-18-2021 12:31 PM

A definite no for red oak outside. Look at a thin slice across the grain. You can see light through the grain. The ‘straws’ are why red oak rots. White oak is solid.

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#5 posted 06-18-2021 03:15 PM

You might consider putting up some traps for the carpenter bees. You can make them or buy them ready made. Lots of info available by an internet search. My house is sided with cedar clapboards and the carpenter bees love it. I put up some traps a couple of years ago and the problem is much improved. Maybe 90% effective. The holes you put into the traps are more attractive to them than drilling there own (they are lazy). So, you will catch most before they damage anything. Also, plug any holes that do get made as the young will come back to the same hole they hatched from next year.

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#6 posted 06-18-2021 06:22 PM

The traps are actually homes for the bees that they prefer over your siding. Don’t kill the bees as they are a good pollinator to have around due to the loss of honeybees.

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pontic

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#7 posted 06-18-2021 06:43 PM

Tried traps have traps still, they attack.
Going with the white oak just like the Victorian’s did.

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum

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#8 posted 06-20-2021 03:29 AM



The traps are actually homes for the bees that they prefer over your siding. Don t kill the bees as they are a good pollinator to have around due to the loss of honeybees.

- ibewjon


I understand that they are pollinators and I don’t enjoy killing them. However, it’s either them or lots of holes in my cedar siding and fascias. And, I’m not going to replace it with oak or aluminum. Maybe only a dozen or so meet there demise each year. I don’t think that will cause a mass extinction.

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