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firefighterontheside

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06-10-2021 06:33 PM

I picked up this planer today. It cost me $25 and 3 oak slabs from my kiln. I think I did really well. It seems to be in really good shape. It’s a clone of the Delta 380. My question is about the motor and power for it. The guy gave me the original packing slip and a manual for what appears to be a different copy of the Delta. The slip says it is a 5hp, but the info plate on the motor is worn off. The guy I got it from and the original owner were running it on 120v, 20a at best. When I look up 5hp motor to run on 120 it says 35a. I’m thinking my best plan is to rewire it for 240. Anyone have any insight on this planer or its clones.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.


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therealSteveN

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#1 posted 06-10-2021 06:43 PM

Pretty sure it’s 2HP. Delta made a deal with any company that wanted to make the 380 they could with a 2HP cap. Many different companies did offer them, probably all made by the same Taiwan company. The idea Delta had was parts availability for the 380 worldwide.

I just sold mine a month or so ago. Mine as many of them were, was on a Delta branded stand with collapsible roller stand in, and outfeed tables. I got just under 600 for mine, so you did good, but you’ll want to put some kind of in/out support on it, or plane everything 12” longer than needed, you’ll probably get some snipe without.

Pics below of the stand I am talking about. Possible to roll your own maybe?

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#2 posted 06-10-2021 06:45 PM

I seriously doubt they were running it on 120V, or if they were it’s more likely a 2 HP motor (even that is a stretch). The early Deltas had a 2 HP motor on them and then it was upsized to a 3HP one. Regardless, I’d want it on 240V. BTW, it looks like it’s been not cared for so well; but you still got a helluva deal…congrats!

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#3 posted 06-10-2021 08:24 PM

It was definitely running on 120v. He ran it for me plugged into a small extension cord. It currently has a 15a plug on it. Assuming the motor can be switched to 240, I will do so and add an outlet in my garage for it. It will live in the garage, as there’s no room in the shop. 2hp is probably right. There’s very little info about the this model on the net, but I did see a reference to them having 2hp. It was purchased in March of 1986.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#4 posted 06-10-2021 08:26 PM

Steve, I will definitely build some tables for it like 8n your pic. It’s on a somewhat cobbled together steel stand that I don’t like. I have some very heavy duty casters and will build a stand out of hardwood. I have a bunch of sheets of laminated phenolic resin that will make good surfaces for the tables.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#5 posted 06-11-2021 06:44 AM

Total Shop was brand that attempted to import/sell ShopSmith clone. They targeted the low cost market, with many different tools. First time seeing a 15” planer from them?

Doubt you have 2HP motor?
A true 2HP draws 20-24A running on 120V, and generally requires a 30A 120v circuit or it constantly trips breaker on start up. While you can sometimes run a 2HP on 20A circuit, expect it trip often on the start up power surge? The fact that your motor is missing any heat sink fins on case, makes me think you have motor marketed as 2HP, but is really 1-1/2 to 1-3/4 HP? That is about only way it would run on 15A 120v circuit.

If need any parts, Delta DC-380 PN 22-675 parts can be challenge to find. But Jet 15” PN 708531 and Grizzly G0550 is same moving head design, and parts have worked for me on generic 15” planers?
If you can find a label that defines if tool was made in Taiwan, or China; that makes a difference. Geetech was producing planers in both Taiwan and China starting in 80’s. The Chinese machines have slightly wider head casting (~10mm), and while bearings are same; feed roller shafts are difference lengths. They also use different gear box case, and gasket.

Note: be very careful rolling the planer around shop, and do not hit the speed change lever. The speed change lever is soft steel and easily bent. Once that happens, they leak oil, are PITA to change speeds, and can damage the gear case cover. Twice had to replace a gear box cover due damage to speed selector bore from bent shafts on rebuild projects. :(

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, Doom, despair, agony on me… - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#6 posted 06-13-2021 10:49 PM

I’ve done a bunch of cleaning on this planer today. I adjusted the rollers in the bed. I took out the knives. The spares I got and the ones that I took out need to be sharpened. Here’s the wiring inside the box on the motor. Does this look like it should be on 240, or do I need to look inside the switch box? Also it has dual start capacitors.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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CaptainKlutz

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#7 posted 06-13-2021 11:17 PM

1) IME – would have minimum of 4 wires inside box if motor was dual 120/240v capable.

2) Dual start capacitors is odd configuration.
How are they wired together, and what are values on side?

Typically two capacitors means; one is start cap (~100-250mfd for 1.5-2HP), and other is run cap (~10-15mfd)?
Would need 3 wires coming out of motor casing for start/run wiring. hmm, I only see two in picture.
Possible to have two smaller capacitors wired in parallel to enable using smaller body size, but seldom cheapest option?

Just a Klutz engineer, not an expert….

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, Doom, despair, agony on me… - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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