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05-20-2021 10:27 PM

I have built in cabinets which include a floor cabinet with two doors. There’s no bottom rail on the cabinet. Originally it had some trim molding nailed to the floor: what looks like a threshold with an additional strip on top used a door stop (see pic).

When new flooring was placed, the flooring guy must have knocked the cabinet good and hard with his sanding machine because afterwards the cabinet was seriously out of square and the doors no longer had even gaps. (New flooring was not placed inside the cabinet but around it). Btw the ‘bottom’ of the cabinet is the old original flooring … all flooring old and new are level.

To fix the out of square problem I made a new face frame. Two flatware drawers are at the top of the cabinet (I replaced the old beat out ones with new ones) and the bottom has the two original doors. At that time I also modified the cabinet by making it deeper – extending the case sides out by a few inches to accommodate the footprint of a larger microwave and also putting in a new countertop.

At the time of the floor installation I had the flooring guy cut a strip of new threshold molding and finish with the same floor finish, so I could replace the really ratty looking threshold (see pic). I was planning on using it along with maybe a strip of 1/2” square section molding nailed to the top as a door stop, and cutting the corners to 45 degrees as a neater transition where the molding meets the stiles.

My question is what treatment options are available for cabinets of this nature – without lower rails – where they meet the floor?
Typically how much clearance is advisable between the floor and the bottom of the doors?

Thanks.

PS: it’s a possibility – in the not immediate future – that I’d replace the two doors with 2 or 3 drawer on Blumotion Tandem runners. As it is there’s one shelf in the cabinet.

Pics show cabinet with and without the bottom molding; the new and old molding.

-- “It is the beginning of wisdom to recognize that most men are fools and knaves, but it is the end of wisdom to embrace that vision.” -Arthur Kleps


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#1 posted 05-21-2021 02:09 AM

Sounds like a personal preference. Obviously there must be enough clearance to open the door. How much is up to you.

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#2 posted 05-21-2021 11:52 AM

Unless there’s some really strong sentimental attachment to that cabinet, I’d suggest starting over with an entirely new cabinet. There are a lot more problems with it than just it having been knocked out of square. The initial design was a hodgepodge of questionable choices.

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#3 posted 05-21-2021 12:38 PM

If it were mine I’d probably just build a new cabinet. However, you could add bottom rail with pocket screws from the inside. Then cut the doors shorter and then build up a new floor inside the cabinet so that it is flush with the top of the new bottom rail.

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#4 posted 05-21-2021 12:56 PM

When adding flooring over an existing in areas like kitchens, going around cabinets always causes problems. I have seen people have a dishwasher go out and only then realize they can’t get it out. This is also why I am not a big fan of building cabinets “on the wall”. If the floor is new and you can match it I would tear out the cabinet, refloor under it and rebuilt it or make a new one.

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#5 posted 05-21-2021 03:16 PM

Different, but I like it. No standard gap between cab door and floor, just make sure door can open all the way w/o rubbing on an unlevel floor.

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#6 posted 05-21-2021 04:21 PM

If it has a solid bottom, you could also add feet, and otherwise leave the cabinet unchanged. The feet would guarantee the door not rubbing as you opened it.

I have to say if it were mine, and it didn’t have some sentimental meaning as is, I’d do as suggested, and start from scratch. If it worked for you, you could reuse the doors, and drawers.

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#7 posted 05-21-2021 06:23 PM

Thanks for all the input and suggestions.

I suppose


Unless there’s some really strong sentimental attachment to that cabinet, I’d suggest starting over with an entirely new cabinet. There are a lot more problems with it than just it having been knocked out of square. The initial design was a hodgepodge of questionable choices.

- xedos

Can you list what the ‘lot more problems with it than just having been knocked out of square’ are?

-- “It is the beginning of wisdom to recognize that most men are fools and knaves, but it is the end of wisdom to embrace that vision.” -Arthur Kleps

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#8 posted 05-22-2021 03:02 AM

I can , but do you really want to go there ?

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#9 posted 05-22-2021 03:13 AM


I can , but do you really want to go there ?

- xedos

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#10 posted 05-22-2021 01:08 PM

Our 1895 house has similar builtin corner cabinet. There is regular doorway style threshold and room flooring as cabinet bottom.

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#11 posted 05-22-2021 10:54 PM

I think this is what I’d do—cut the doors shorter and put in a bottom rail


....you could add bottom rail with pocket screws from the inside. Then cut the doors shorter and then build up a new floor inside the cabinet so that it is flush with the top of the new bottom rail.
- bondogaposis

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