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Forum topic by Bearcontrare posted 05-08-2021 10:01 PM 429 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-08-2021 10:01 PM

Have heard some negative comments in the past about the Stanley “Defiance” hand drill. This one was given to me about six years ago. I’ve been using it all weekend on project involving some unknown pallet wood. Used it because it happened to be handiest at the time. I’m quite pleased with it”s performance, although the gears are slightly noiseier than I’m used to.!

-- Barry, in Maryland

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#1 posted 05-08-2021 11:05 PM

The ultimate portable drill. No cord or charger needed and no conflict mineral containing dead batteries in the landfill! Outstanding! Kudos for being green from an old hippie. Yuppies take note.

Gotta love an old “egg beater” :)

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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#2 posted 05-09-2021 04:40 AM

Not everybody likes the same tools.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#3 posted 05-09-2021 06:46 AM

Yeah they work OK despite being ugly as sin. I tend to opt for my Miller Falls as its the best looking one I have.

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#4 posted 05-09-2021 11:45 AM

Ya got me there…. Hafta admit my MF drills are my favorites, and they see the most use. But, the Definance was closest on hand at ithe time.

Not only did I drill my pilot holes for screws with it, I counter sunk my holes with it using a hex shank bit. The screws were driven in with a Yankee spiral screwdriver.

-- Barry, in Maryland

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#5 posted 05-09-2021 02:23 PM

A lot of advantage to “meat” powered tools as stated. It was thought that the ancients had battery and electric tools, then fell into the traps of extension cords and dead/obsolete batteries. They then developed entire lines of meat powered tools and used them for generations. At some point the original purpose was lost to history and we are repeating the past 8^)

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#6 posted 05-09-2021 03:40 PM

To be clear, the anti-Defiance sentiment I have seen is almost exclusively (and appropriately) directed to their handplane models which lacked a true frog.

That aside, I have more than a few dozen Defiance (and even Handyman) tools. The Defiance socket chisels, for example, are not bad at all.

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#7 posted 05-09-2021 07:26 PM

I believe the Defiance were the Lowes, Home Depot level drills, while the celebrated Stanleys were considered to be the LN, LV level tools of the time.

Beauty though has nothing to do with utility. Pictured below are Left to Right the Stanley, and that later model is slick as greased…. The Wonderfully ergonomic Millers Falls, and then that Fugly JOIC. In terms of utility though that goofy little JOIC will bend and twist to wherever you need it to be, and in a sense, isn’t that beautiful. :-)

-- Think safe, be safe

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#8 posted 05-09-2021 08:14 PM

“Everyone to their own taste” said the old lady, as she kissed the cow.

-- Phil Allin - There are woodworkers and people who collect woodworking tools. The woodworkers have a chair to sit on that they made.

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#9 posted 05-09-2021 11:39 PM

No experience with Defiance tools so …. But my MF crankers work just fine. A dollar each at separate Garage sales.
But wait there’s more! They both had a set of those flat spade drill bits hidden in the handle. Unscrew the knob and there they are!

-- Bob Gnann. "Don't cloud the issue with facts.". Groucho Marx

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#10 posted 05-10-2021 10:47 PM

The Defiance is one of about twelve hand drills which live with me. The Millers Falls models are my favorite, frequently used children.

-- Barry, in Maryland

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