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04-30-2021 05:40 AM

Listen guys! I’m wanting to finish out my collection of Stanley hand planes. I want a #1 type 15, 16, or 17. I want a smooth sole. I’m only interested in those with the Orange/red cap irons. I’ve got over 20 hand planes ans the #1 is the only plane missing from my collection. Can any of you help me finish out my collection?


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#1 posted 04-30-2021 04:55 PM

I hope you have $1k to spend towards this venture. Stanley No 1’s are:
  • rare
  • collectible
  • expensive

-- Devin, SF, CA

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#2 posted 04-30-2021 05:01 PM

Found the blade, now you just need to find the plane

-- Devin, SF, CA

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#3 posted 04-30-2021 05:27 PM

However, I’ve never seen a Type 15, 16, or 17.

Here are some previously-sold units to help you gauge the cost:

Sold for 1,840 EUR (~$2,28.61 USD) Original Stanley No 1 Smoothing Plane-Sweetheart Logo-Type 13 1925-1932

Sold for $1,583 Antique Stanley No. 1 Small Smoothing Plane Woodworking Tool-

A broken Stanley No 1 with a crack sold for $312 Vintage Stanley No 1 Plane Parts

An even more broken Stanley No 1 with a broken horn on the tote and crack sold for $399 Stanley No 1 plane

The cheapest usable one sold for $650 Antique Vtg Stanley Bailey No. 1 Smoothing Plane Patent Date 12/24/1867

The next one up from that sold for $956 and is bound to be the norm price Antique Stanley No.1 Wood Working Plane Rare

Another sold for $999 Varry hard to find vintage Stanley no 1plane.

And another one (type 8) sold for $1,000.01 Stanley No. 1 Smoothing Plane

A type 10 sold for $1,079, which is worth noting had a broken horn Stanley No 1- #1- Smoothing Plane Type 10- ca. 1907

One with a hairline crack in it and busted horn sold for $1,130 Antique Vtg Stanley Bailey No. 1 Smoothing Plane Patent Date 12/24/1867

Another one with a hairline crack in it sold for $1,234 Stanley No 1 Cast Iron Plane Excellent Vtg Old Antique

Another type 13 sold for $1,280 and had two significant chips in it antique Stanley No. 1 Sweetheart smoothing plane, Type 13, 1925-1932

An “attic fresh” model with a small crack in the handle (almost unnoticeable) went for $1,300 Antique Stanley No. 1 Small Smoothing Plane Woodworking Tool

A rusted and pitted one that was at least intact went for less than $1,500 Stanley no 1 Plane, RARE.

Really, the cost of a Stanley No 1 is going to start around $1,500 if you want one that is in good condition, no major blemishes, zero cracks, no pitting, little-to-no rust, intact horn on the tote, good condition wood, etc.

Like this one that sold for $1,500 Stanley no 1 plane-

The first two that I listed and the one immediately above are the only ones that I would consider worthy of collection, unless you’re willing to do some major work in locating parts. However, from what I have seen, you’re going to have to buy a broken Stanley No 1 for parts to fix up another one if it doesn’t come in good condition.

So you’re actually looking at $1500—either you buy one for $1500 in good condition or you buy one at $1000 in less than good condition and then one more for $500 and mix the two to make a fully functional and blemish-free plane.

Just thought you should know.

Also, I still have never seen a type 15, 16, or 17 Stanley No 1. Are you sure they ever made them? I was under the impression that Stanley stopped making the No 1 in 1943. According to my type information, 1943 would have been type 17, but has anyone ever seen a Stanley No 1 that is newer than Type 13?

-- Devin, SF, CA

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#4 posted 04-30-2021 05:50 PM

May want to email Jim Bode and offer him more than he usually sells them for. When he lists them they tend to go in seconds.

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#5 posted 04-30-2021 05:51 PM

Yeah I know it’s gonna be spendy. I’m getting a pretty good tax return so I’m going to buy one. I just need to find one.

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#6 posted 04-30-2021 06:02 PM

If Uncle Sam gives me back my taxes this year, I know what I will be doing with it. Walking down to Edward Koehn and handing him my money to do a run of 5,000 Norris adjusters so I can sell them dirt cheap to all the people that want to make wooden planes with Norris adjusters.

-- Devin, SF, CA

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#7 posted 04-30-2021 06:38 PM

Klingspor Woodworking Store in Cary, NC has a no. 1 for sale, can’t recall what type it is. Another person to try is Ed Lebetkin [email protected], he runs the tool sore above the woodwrights shop in Graham NC.

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#8 posted 04-30-2021 07:33 PM


Yeah I know it s gonna be spendy. I m getting a pretty good tax return so I m going to buy one. I just need to find one.

- BurlyBob

Is that the only one you are missing in your whole collection? Btw, #1 are only smooth sole.

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#9 posted 04-30-2021 07:36 PM

SMP, I’d be amazed if it was. There are the C variants with corrugated soles, the H variants with heavy castings, and I suspect others. I have also seen some with Corrugated sides and a flat sole (presumably to reduce the coefficient of drag when you are shooting? I don’t know).

And, are we talking bench planes only? Bench and block planes? What about a howel and croze? Transitionals? Rabbet plane? Skew? Compass? Belt maker’s plane? Match planes? Chisel planes? Moulding planes? Combination planes? Fillister and chamfer planes? Did I forget to name any?

-- Devin, SF, CA

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#10 posted 04-30-2021 07:59 PM



SMP, I d be amazed if it was. There are the C variants with corrugated soles, the H variants with heavy castings, and I suspect others. I have also seen some with Corrugated sides and a flat sole (presumably to reduce the coefficient of drag when you are shooting? I don t know).

And, are we talking bench planes only? Bench and block planes? What about a howel and croze? Transitionals? Rabbet plane? Skew? Compass? Belt maker s plane? Match planes? Chisel planes? Moulding planes? Combination planes? Fillister and chamfer planes? Did I forget to name any?

- DevinT

There are S and A variants of many as well as 1/2 and 1/4 sizes between as well. I have a 5 1/4 i never use and an A i bought cause it looked kind of cool but never used as well.

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#11 posted 04-30-2021 08:09 PM

Right, A for Aluminum (/me shudders) and S for Steel. Wasn’t there also a single model that had a 3/4? I seem to recall seeing a Stanley something-3/4 and thinking to myself, hmmm, that’s odd.

EDIT: Sorry, those were Leonard Bailey Victor block planes, 1-3/4, 2-3/4, and the Ohio block plane 9-3/4—all of which rare, and none of which Stanley.

I wonder how much stronger the steel bodied planes are compared to the iron ones (in practicality).

-- Devin, SF, CA

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#12 posted 04-30-2021 08:42 PM

Stanley No. 9-3/4 was a Block plane….with a ball handle added to the backend….

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#13 posted 04-30-2021 08:44 PM


I wonder how much stronger the steel bodied planes are compared to the iron ones (in practicality).

- DevinT

The steel are mainly so you can drop on a concrete floor and it won’t crack like cast iron. I have a steel block plane i have in my outdoor/construction tools as i can drop on concrete and it doesn’t even phase it.

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#14 posted 04-30-2021 09:13 PM

SMP, then somewhere out there must be an environment more demanding that must require a titanium hand plane. Right?

...

Right?!

-- Devin, SF, CA

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#15 posted 04-30-2021 09:42 PM

Well Bob if I ever find one I’ll let you know. I won’t sell it to you, just let you know I found one and intend to keep it.
That’s what friends are for. You’re welcome!

-- Bob Gnann. "Don't cloud the issue with facts.". Groucho Marx

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