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mayer

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04-29-2021 08:51 PM

I saw the forum discussion about unrealistic craigslist pricing on used equipment and figured I’d ask first:

I have to move soon and can no longer keep most of my father’s and uncle’s tools and supplies. Not being a carpenter or machinist, I’m not even sure of the proper terms, let alone pricing, for some of them. All the tools are from at least the early 70’s; some things (full size drill press, double wheel grinder, bandsaw) may date back to the 50’s. The carpentry hardware probably dates back to the 70’s & 80’s when he was still active in the field.

Among the things in need of a new owner are:

table saw ( requires 220V )

carpenter’s workbench:

a very heavy bench vise:

a combo belt & disk sander

a 4 ft carpenter’s level and an assortment of bar clamps ( longest is about 70” )

I’m also a bit curious about these item’s possible value ( others have already requested them)

full size drill press (requires 220V )

double wheel grinder (works, but the toggle switch stem snapped recently )

band saw ( in need of new trunions from time it was moved by people who didn’t know better, and a new set of cover panel wingnuts … may be due for a new blade as well, but still seems to cut up small tree branches fine)

I still have to do an inventory of all the misc other clamps, hand saws & drills ( inc a bit and brace drill?) , large set of files, drill & hole saw bits of all kinds, some pipe threading bits and dies ( I need to find the bits that go with the Yankee 131 spiral ratchet screwdriver I already found)

there is also quite a bit of carpentry & cabinetry parts ( a fair bit of which may have spent far too much time in the garage) including a variety of drawer slides, door hinges (found 5 stanley olive knuckle 8892-LH hinges?) and at least 45 pieces of these hidden cabinet hinges

I’d appreaciate any help on determining their fair value. And if anyone is interested in any of these, I’m located in NYC. At this point, buyer would have to pick up the items


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Loren

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#1 posted 04-29-2021 10:39 PM

What are the sizes of the grinder, band saw and drill press?

The saw is I think a Unisaw jr. worth maybe $400

The bench could be worth a lot, perhaps up to $1000, which is what I sold an antique Dutch bench for once. It had a shoulder vise though. There’s some demand for old benches among decorators and obviously a solid bench has considerable value to a woodworker.

Sander $100-200

The vise could be worth quite a lot because new good ones are really expensive and there are people who collect them. The Chinese ones don’t hold up I think.

The clamps look like pipe clamps. They aren’t worth a great deal, maybe a bit over $100 for the lot. Level is worthless on the used as is most of the hardware I would reckon.

Since you’re in NYC some or all of this stuff may be worth half or more of new prices for comparable items. I could be underestimating the value of the sander. People are more into buying old machinery now than ever it seems and that’s increased prices. While I’ve always priced stuff to sell when I sell it, many sellers aren’t in a hurry and some are just insane with what they’re asking.

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#2 posted 04-29-2021 10:51 PM

I agree with Loren. That bench is the star of the show. You set a good price and don’t waver! Also don’t try to clean it up very much. Patina is everything to a woodworker or a decorator.

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mayer

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#3 posted 04-30-2021 12:59 AM

ok, so how should I proceed ? It almost sounds like the workbench should be on an ebay auction.

And here’s where I really show my ignorance – how do I measure the sizes of the grinder, band saw & drill press ?
I’m guessing for the grinder it would be the diameter of the grinder wheels. As for the other items …

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#4 posted 04-30-2021 01:24 AM

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#5 posted 04-30-2021 01:35 AM

And here’s where I really show my ignorance – how do I measure the sizes of the grinder, band saw & drill press ?

Sizes:

  • Bandsaw – measure from blade to frame. What you have appears to be a 1950 Delta 14” saw.
  • Drill press – measure from the center of the drill chuck to the post and multiply by 2.
  • Grinder – measure diameter of wheels. Should be either 6” or 8”.
  • Sander – Disc; measure diameter. Belt – width and length of belt. Width is the easy one ;)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#6 posted 04-30-2021 02:41 AM



I agree with Loren. That bench is the star of the show. You set a good price and don t waver! Also don t try to clean it up very much. Patina is everything to a woodworker or a decorator.

- BurlyBob


Seriously guys… what avid woodworker would buy a second hand, very basic workbench rather than build his own…
and you’d have to be devoid of guilt to sell it to a novice.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#7 posted 04-30-2021 03:03 AM


Seriously guys… what avid woodworker would buy a second hand, very basic workbench rather than build his own…
and you d have to be devoid of guilt to sell it to a novice.

Ha – a woodworker should be buried with their bench.

The Reed vise could swing in $150+

-- derek / oregon

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mayer

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#8 posted 04-30-2021 06:37 PM

for those who asked about the sizes:
the bandsaw: band wheel diameter: 14” blade to column distance: 13.75”, blade guard to column distance: 13” physical dimensions (appx): 65”Hx17”W x 25”D

combo sander:
disc diameter: 9”
belt width: 6”
belt length: 48”

carpenter’s workbench:
63”x20” not counting the clamp “extensions”

drill press (Delta Milwaukee ser no: X10-2549 ): 17”
phys dimensions (appx): 16”Wx27”Dx66”H ; base: 25”Dx17”w

double grinder:
seems to be 8” wheels. Still grinds well, but it spent more years near the garage door than it should have …

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#9 posted 05-01-2021 01:06 AM


I agree with Loren. That bench is the star of the show. You set a good price and don t waver! Also don t try to clean it up very much. Patina is everything to a woodworker or a decorator.

- BurlyBob

Seriously guys… what avid woodworker would buy a second hand, very basic workbench rather than build his own…
and you d have to be devoid of guilt to sell it to a novice.

- LittleBlackDuck

With the current wood prices it would cost a bundle to build a bench even with Southern yellow pine. That one looks like it’s made of a decent wood and it has two vises installed. Someone like myself that would rather be working on projects than outfitting the shop would be a good candidate for a decent bench at a decent price. Yes, I would love to build a bench from maple but maple is only available in retail stores like specialty cabinet makers’ supply companies, Woodcraft and Rockler in my area so it would cost a wad. I wouldn’t pay what it would cost to build one but if I found one locally for a fair price I would buy it.

-- David

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mayer

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#10 posted 05-02-2021 08:33 PM

More searching through the garage turned up this odd looking ( to me) vise. Clearly has spent too much time “outdoors” and has a bit of surface rust on it, but seems to work. No hints of any label/marking on it anymore

and I check my Reed 204R. It no longer swivels (never realized it once might have). And as for the condition of its jaws:

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bigJohninvegas

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#11 posted 05-02-2021 10:53 PM


What are the sizes of the grinder, band saw and drill press?

The saw is I think a Unisaw jr. worth maybe $400

The bench could be worth a lot, perhaps up to $1000, which is what I sold an antique Dutch bench for once. It had a shoulder vise though. There s some demand for old benches among decorators and obviously a solid bench has considerable value to a woodworker.

Sander $100-200

The vise could be worth quite a lot because new good ones are really expensive and there are people who collect them. The Chinese ones don t hold up I think.

The clamps look like pipe clamps. They aren t worth a great deal, maybe a bit over $100 for the lot. Level is worthless on the used as is most of the hardware I would reckon.

Since you re in NYC some or all of this stuff may be worth half or more of new prices for comparable items. I could be underestimating the value of the sander. People are more into buying old machinery now than ever it seems and that s increased prices. While I ve always priced stuff to sell when I sell it, many sellers aren t in a hurry and some are just insane with what they re asking.

- Loren

I agree with Loren here. Prices are a little high on some of it for my area, and the age of the machine.
But the last few years here on LJ, it seems east coast big city areas have much higher tool prices, and a lack of available used tools to start with.
Some of the comments about the bench. I have some hand tools that I have bought over the years from the families of friends who have passed.
That bench looks solid, and while it would be nice to build my own. I would be honored to have a bench like that in my shop.
The stories it could tell.
As far as where to sell. I would look for local woodworking stores. They could help you fine local woodworking clubs. Club members would be interested in buying, and many would be willing to help check out tools to see what shape they are in. Help give a real value for them in your market area.
I have given up on Craigslist. It was my go to place to post an ad for several years. but now all I get is scam and low ball offers.
the last few items I posted on both craigslist and Facebook market place. Not even one real bite on craigslist. but good results from Facebook. Of course you will still get the low baller, and I get a couple, what’s your address, and I’ll be right over. Never see or hear from them again. And items that I can carry myself I meet at a corner store. so no one comes to my home. But that can’t be done with big stuff.

And the things a buyer is looking for in most of the tools you have.
The small vise is a machinist vice. Used with the drill press.
And don’t worry about the swivel on the Reed vise. It looks intact. soak or spray it down with a penetrating oil, WD40. Most likely it is just stuck. If I had the little machinist vise I would try to disassemble it. It has some good rust on it. Soak in Evaporust overnight and restore it to working order.
As a buyer I would not pay much for it in that condition. Maybe $20. but I am taking the risk with the restore too. And my time.
the switch in the grinder is easy. Take it out, mark you wires, and even better take photos or wiring. Take it to an electrical supply and they will hook you up with a replacement switch.
The disk belt sander, Can the table on the disk be set to 90°, And on the belt, with a straight edge, is the table on the belt flat? Bearings good, not making bad noise.
Drill press, a buyer is looking for good bearings, and no runout. Basically if you drill a 1/2” hole. does it give you a sloppy fit, or a good fit?
Good luck.

With the current wood prices it would cost a bundle to build a bench even with Southern yellow pine. That one looks like it s made of a decent wood and it has two vises installed. Someone like myself that would rather be working on projects than outfitting the shop would be a good candidate for a decent bench at a decent price. Yes, I would love to build a bench from maple but maple is only available in retail stores like specialty cabinet makers supply companies, Woodcraft and Rockler in my area so it would cost a wad. I wouldn t pay what it would cost to build one but if I found one locally for a fair price I would buy it.

- david2011

That’s what I am talking about. I would not pay a $1000.00 for it.
But I would be proud to own it.
However a brand new one from Lie Nielsen, (out of stock) is $2750.

-- John

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JCamp

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#12 posted 05-02-2021 11:01 PM

You didn’t ask this but to me tools are very sentimental so if you are like me and it kills you to have to sell these I’d try to keep as many as I could even if I had to rent a little unit for a while. If you see yourself wanting to set up shop in the next couple years you should consider keeping them in my opinion. All of those are nice tools. If you do get rid of them then at least some folks will get some nice equipment. If you do sell put a few hundred back in a envelope in case you decide to get into wood working some day. I don’t know what your dad and uncle built but they sure collected nice stuff to do it

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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mayer

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#13 posted 05-02-2021 11:23 PM

my uncle I would probably describe as a machinist. He had a 2-man factory that assembled generic retractable ball point pens and built the machines that did the assembly ( combination pneumatic & electric systems). I also later discovered that he had carved a small wooden linked chain from a single piece of wood. The drill press and grinder were his. My father was a carpenter. During the week the company he worked for made office spaces ( they built some of the original offices up in the Twin Towers in the early 70s ). On weekends he built wall units & kitchens in his own shop.

I’m going to try to hang on to the hand tools.The grinder, drill press and band saw I’m passing on to some local people so I’ll hopefully still have “visitation rights” or be owed future favors. (though I’m curious what they’re worth on the market). The other items I just have nowhere to keep it.

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mayer

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#14 posted 05-05-2021 05:35 PM

I haven’t had much luck finding woodworker/carpenter clubs. tried Fraternal order of woodworkers (father was member of carpenters & joiners 246) and 2 local maker spaces without luck. not many woodworking stores nearby ( tried one so far without success). I’ve had one offer for the bench so far maxing out at $500.

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#15 posted 05-05-2021 07:06 PM

Ebay
Craigs list
Offerup
FB Marketplace

All depends on how much time you want to tie up selling this stuff. These items are not the type of stuff you can meet at a gas station to look at so they will need to see it where it is sitting. I would look at history on ebay as max pricing and go as low as you think will get it out of there. You will be amazed at how many people come for one item and spot something else and say “what will you take for that”

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