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bruc101

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04-28-2021 04:22 AM

Had a friend send this to me tonight about lumber prices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_5MkGbXXKc

-- Bruce Free Plans https://traditionalwoodworking.org


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#1 posted 04-28-2021 04:35 AM

Can’t stand big tech, so no idea what that youtube video shows.

St Joes down here in FL was a big lumber company with lots of acreage. They decided to become a developer right around the real estate bubble of ‘04-’08.

Supposedly they saw the writing on the wall about the coming lumber glut.

Pendulums swing, especially when everyone these days seems to run a company to meet their bonus requirements, not for the multi-decades long-haul. The Fed’s idiotic policies and dipstick politicians’ vote-buying exacerbate natural overshoots.

This time it’ll be different…yeah, right.

Fun times.

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#2 posted 04-28-2021 05:19 AM

That’s a fascinating video. Thanks for posting it. I’ve been seeing the lumber prices soar and wondered why. Now I have a pretty good idea what happened.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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Rich

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#3 posted 04-28-2021 05:21 AM


Can t stand big tech, so no idea what that youtube video shows.

- Festdewalkita

I’m not sure why you chose to comment if you didn’t watch the video. If you had watched it you might have a different opinion.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#4 posted 04-28-2021 05:35 AM

I agree things totally suck. But I’ve got a few projects that need hardwood and hardwood ply woods. What’s a fellow got to do? I’m just going to suck it up and get thru these projects and spend of this summer fishing.

Now consider something. I’m a target shooter. Have you checked the price of reloading components or their availability? I think not. It’s like hunting for that very small needle in a hay stack.

We have all got to get thru this current political structure and hope for better times.

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#5 posted 04-28-2021 05:42 AM


We have all got to get thru this current political structure and hope for better times.

- BurlyBob

+1

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#6 posted 04-28-2021 05:47 AM

Kind of like crude oil prices. Hey a whole barrel costs 10 cents more than last week, why did gasoline prices go up $2 per GALLON? Oh, the refineries are posting record profits. Business 101

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#7 posted 04-28-2021 10:44 AM


We have all got to get thru this current political structure and hope for better times.

- BurlyBob

+1

- Rich

+2, interesting video. I; too, usually skip u tube stuff…but hey, it was 4 minutes. NBD, and thanks!

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#8 posted 04-28-2021 11:23 AM

Yesterday at my supplier I learned they have no birch ply, their vendor is not taking orders and they can’t even find any on a ship. The warehouse guy told me Russian birch has been gone a while, and they can’t even get the Vietnamese or SAmerican stuff.

I’d say 20% of the selves were empty. They did have prefinished ply, though.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#9 posted 04-28-2021 12:51 PM



Kind of like crude oil prices. Hey a whole barrel costs 10 cents more than last week, why did gasoline prices go up $2 per GALLON? Oh, the refineries are posting record profits. Business 101

- SMP


It’s a commodity, the price is not based on what it took to get it but what it will cost to replace it.

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#10 posted 04-28-2021 03:42 PM


We have all got to get thru this current political structure and hope for better times.

- BurlyBob

+1

- Rich

+1000!

Here’s another video that provides an identical analysis. It’s the same old story of monopolies pushing out smaller operations and undercutting (no pun intended) raw producers. What’s not being discussed here is the role that China is playing in driving up market prices. We had mills in my neck of the woods running 24/7 and shipping almost everything they had to China via Canada. That’s how China bypassed the tariffs during the last administration.

What we’re seeing with wood prices is not just economics. It’s political in a very big way….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdnSPZfI4k

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#11 posted 04-28-2021 04:12 PM



Yesterday at my supplier I learned they have no birch ply, their vendor is not taking orders and they can’t even find any on a ship. The warehouse guy told me Russian birch has been gone a while, and they can’t even get the Vietnamese or SAmerican stuff.

- Robert

In Soviet Russia, birch finds you!

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#12 posted 04-28-2021 04:20 PM

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#13 posted 04-28-2021 04:22 PM



- stevejack

Whats hysterical about this is I wonder if those little packets of parmesan will be pure cheese now, instead of being cheese cut with cellulose.

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#14 posted 04-28-2021 04:22 PM


St Joes down here in FL was a big lumber company with lots of acreage. They decided to become a developer right around the real estate bubble of 04- 08.

- Festdewalkita

I use to drive a log truck out of Perry and did some logging for St Joe and Foley. There was also a movie star from the 50’s that owned a huge track. I left logging in Perry when I figured out it was slave labor wages.

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#15 posted 04-28-2021 04:29 PM

Everything will be ok. Ride the little storm out and it will be fine.

I remember gas once shot to 5$ Gallon. It came back down. So will lumber.

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