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Jim2020

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04-23-2021 05:25 PM

I’m planning to start scroll sawing, and think I would like to buy a Hawk or Hegner saw. I think I would prefer one 20 inches or bigger, but I’m not sure.

I’ve never done any scroll saw work, so I’m not really sure what I need. I’m a value shopper, but I realize the value of quality, so thought I’d start out with a really good machine.

Since I don’t know anything about scroll saw work, I’d like to hear from some of you what exactly you use your scroll saw to do. What can a scroll saw do that no other wood working tool can do? Thanks for your help. Jim


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#1 posted 04-23-2021 06:06 PM

I use my scroll saw for all sorts of things, but prefer doing portraits. I started a thread a while back titled “Outside the box scroll saw projects” that you may be interested in, as it shows some of the diverse things that can be done with one. Lately, I’ve been trying to incorporate using the scroll saw and lathe together (see thread mentioned above).

When I first got into scrolling, I had no idea if I would like it or not. I picked up a used 18” Delta for dirt cheap and started exploring what I could do with it. I figured if I didn’t enjoy it, I could always turn around and sell it for what I paid and be out nothing. Turned out that I do really like scroll work and doing fine detail stuff with it. My most recent addition is a Hegner Multimax 18V, which I also got used but in basically brand new condition.

As for size – what do you plan on or anticipate using it for? The entry level machines are usually 16” machines, which means you get to the middle of a 32” wide piece of material. 18” will get you to the middle of a 3 foot piece and so on. I personally have never used anything bigger than an 8”x10” portrait blank, and the 18” machines I have now are more than sufficient. What may matter more is how thick a piece it can cut. Cheaper saws can barely do 1”, larger machines perhaps up to 2”, but none can do much more than that, and if they can, it is usually really slow going.

I’d suggest finding a nice used machine to start with – that way you can get a feel for it and see if you enjoy scrolling. Something like one of the higher end machines, like the DeWalt 788 or Delta G3. Avoid the cheaper plastic machines unless you run across one for a couple of bucks or free. Who knows, you may discover that you like the machine you start with and just keep going from there… I know many people who are more than happy with the DeWalt and have no desire to ‘upgrade’ to a more expensive machine ;)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#2 posted 04-23-2021 11:56 PM

Jim, where are you located? I have an RBI Hawk that I would give up. I ended up with it about 8 years ago from my wife’s grandfather. He purchased it new. I really didn’t intend on getting it but I bought it as a package deal with a bunch of other things to help him out. I purchased a bunch of blades and some additional blade holders and used it for two months to make some Christmas tree ornaments that year, it hasn’t been used since. I just couldn’t get myself interested in that type of work. It includes several set of blade holders, dozens of blades, the magnifying glass/light, and the foot pedal. It’s in excellent condition.

-- NorthWoodsMan

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#3 posted 04-24-2021 01:18 AM

Been scrolling for quite a few year (see my projects). I have a Hegner and a Seyco. I have never had the opportunity to use a Hawk… Would like to… I love my Hegner and the only thing that would make me happier would be to have two…Hegners… First I would suggest joining Scroll Saw Village,,, best scroll saw forum available… Do searching about saws…. Lots of info there.. Great bunch of helpful people.

Of the two you mention,,,, even without ever using or owning a Hawk,,, I recommend the Hegner. I base it on customer service and availability of parts… Hawk is a family business run by some people that also farm… The farm appears to come first… If you buy a new Hawk,,, you may have to wait awhile to get it and if you need parts, you may have to wait a while to get them…. Depends on time of year and crops… Not saying Hawk isn’t a great saw,, it certainly is.. Hegner has stiller customer service and parts (although expensive) are readily available (I am assuming you live in the USA),,,. But in both cases,,, Hawk or Hegner,,, you will rarely need parts…. the are tough.

Also look for a used one and save a few bucks… BUT before buying a used on,,, ask opinions on the forum… there are some older Hawks and Hegners that have some things that may need upgrading… Some older Hawks have a motor the is not supported… That can be a problem. Some of the older Hegners have an older tensioning system that works but for connivence,, would want to be upgraded and the upgrade is not cheap..

Good luck… scrolling is fun and very versatile. All kinds of different disciplines can be enjoyed with one. Intarsia, fret work, portraits, 3D cutting, boxes, bowls, signs, plaques, marquetry… the list goes on… Good luck… Lots to have fun with.

Another thing to do, check to see if there is an active club in your area.. No better way to learn, get advice and have fun…https://www.scrollsawvillage.com

-- “We all die. The goal isn't to live forever; the goal is to create something that will.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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Jim2020

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#4 posted 04-24-2021 01:35 PM

I live in West Tawakoni TX. NorthWoodsman, I’m very interested in your saw. I look forward to the details. Thanks. Jim

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#5 posted 04-24-2021 06:42 PM

Jim, I sent you a message. It’s a Model 226 VS. Age is unknown. My wife’s grandfather purchased it new, most likely in the mid to late 90’s. It’s in excellent condition or better. Attached are photo’s. Email me and we can discuss price. It has 4 blade holders, over 100 good quality blades, original foot pedal and light. I live between Plano and McKinney, about 25 north of downtown Dallas.

-- NorthWoodsMan

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Jim2020

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#6 posted 04-25-2021 10:28 PM

Well guys, I bought the saw from NorthWoodsMan. We met at middle point between homes, so I couldn’t test the saw ‘til I got it home. Runs great. Really smooth. I can stand the nickle on the table and run the saw at 4 on the VS scale, and it stays standing. Seems pretty smooth for a scroll saw. So since I found a saw, I’m no longer looking.

Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and comments. I appreciate the help. Jim

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#7 posted 04-25-2021 11:58 PM

Congratulations!! That is a great looking saw. Certainly has not been abused for the looks of it. Don’t look like it has had hardly any use… You need to get some sawdust on it!! You will love it, I am sure.

-- “We all die. The goal isn't to live forever; the goal is to create something that will.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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#8 posted 04-26-2021 01:14 AM

Well that certainly worked out well! Nice saw… enjoy it!

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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Woodchuckswife

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#9 posted 04-26-2021 12:21 PM

I have the same saw. I have had to replace the lite tow times not the bulb. the whole lite, It is about 18 years old. other wise it run fine
Chuck

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Jim2020

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#10 posted 04-26-2021 06:37 PM

Just a bit of Hawk history for anyone who’s interested. I contacted Bushton today to find out when my “new” Hawk 226VS was made. It was manufactured in 1995. Serial number 3756. It’s an Ultra, but interestingly enough, it has a Leeson 1.3a 90v dc motor. The Ultra parts manuals show a 2.1a dc motor.
I’ve been playing with it, trying to learn how to “scroll. Jim

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northwoodsman

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#11 posted 04-26-2021 10:55 PM

I guessed correctly, it was from the mid to late 90’s. I’m sure you’ll get many good years out of it, it’s like new. I owned it for 10 years and it saw 60 minutes of use during that time. It hadn’t been used for 8 years prior to that, so not many miles on it.

Had to take grandpa’s tools away when he was found cussing like a sailor at his new bandsaw blade. He had the blade on backwards so the teeth were facing the back of the saw. It was technically wasn’t backwards, he was just feeding it from the wrong side. If he would have fed it from the back it may have worked just fine.

-- NorthWoodsMan

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#12 posted 04-28-2021 03:16 PM

Check these out…. Lots for free patterns and info.

https://www.scrollsawvillage.com

https://scrollsawworkshop.blogspot.com

-- “We all die. The goal isn't to live forever; the goal is to create something that will.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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