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04-20-2021 12:09 PM

If it takes anyone 30 minutes to EXPLAIN to you why lumber has become so expensive… YOU ARE BEING LIED TO….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTV_oQj5S4s


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#1 posted 04-20-2021 12:44 PM

Since this was from November last year, I guess his theory about a seasonal drop in demand was a little off.

-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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#2 posted 04-20-2021 02:39 PM

If you ask me ALL US lumber rights/property have been sold off, probably to China!

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#3 posted 04-20-2021 03:45 PM

It seems everything today is “complicated”.
Soft wood prices (fir, pine, cedar) have gone up for several reasons. Higher demand, tariffs on Canadian lumber, lower production of lumber in British Columbia, fewer lumber mills in Pacific North West. reduction of harvesting in national forests, forest fires, the Spotted Owl protection, and others.
As with most things it will balance out eventually.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#4 posted 04-20-2021 04:03 PM



It seems everything today is “complicated”.
Soft wood prices (fir, pine, cedar) have gone up for several reasons. Higher demand, tariffs on Canadian lumber, lower production of lumber in British Columbia, fewer lumber mills in Pacific North West. reduction of harvesting in national forests, forest fires, the Spotted Owl protection, and others.
As with most things it will balance out eventually.

- LesB


that is pretty much it les,seasonal demand is not it ,at least in socal were going full speed .

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#5 posted 04-20-2021 04:10 PM



It seems everything today is “complicated”.
Soft wood prices (fir, pine, cedar) have gone up for several reasons. Higher demand, tariffs on Canadian lumber, lower production of lumber in British Columbia, fewer lumber mills in Pacific North West. reduction of harvesting in national forests, forest fires, the Spotted Owl protection, and others.
As with most things it will balance out eventually.

- LesB

Don’t forget the other main factor, people in the supply chain seeing how much extra profit they can get away with while people are accepting the “reasons” for the price increases

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#6 posted 04-20-2021 05:00 PM


It seems everything today is “complicated”.
Soft wood prices (fir, pine, cedar) have gone up for several reasons. Higher demand, tariffs on Canadian lumber, lower production of lumber in British Columbia, fewer lumber mills in Pacific North West. reduction of harvesting in national forests, forest fires, the Spotted Owl protection, and others.
As with most things it will balance out eventually.

- LesB

I wanted to just like but can’t find how or the button on the site of how people like posts. I see it sometimes on posts but could not find it in the help section either. Anyone have the secret?

Not everything is a conspiracy. Mills are down overall in the US for different reasons. How much from lunatics starting fires, regardless of the effect; I say too many. It is bat crazy and so unnecessary. He did a recent video update and states Mills and commodity dealing making a profit. Good for them. at least the mills. If you can keep something operating through all the obstacles eventually you will be on the winning side for a little while anyway. Take it when can and plan for the future. Most things are viewpoints and perceptions. When the foot went off the pedal with all lumber production expecting things to shut down with Covid the gap created a legendary jump in prices once stockpiles disappeared. Prices once rise on anything take time to settle, especially when it is something the media can run as chaos for as long as it will run. Good Sawmilling to all who benefit. I wish I was in a position, not yet; just not yet.

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#7 posted 04-20-2021 05:09 PM

I think this make more sense than anything else…

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#8 posted 04-20-2021 05:22 PM

SJ – you are an excellent troll.

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#9 posted 04-20-2021 05:23 PM

You say that like its a bad thing???


SJ – you are an excellent troll.

- xedos


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#10 posted 04-20-2021 05:44 PM

LMAO…. Great read.

I mostly like

“As with most things it will balance out eventually.”

I figure it will be right about when they have figured out plastics to the point they will be making plastic 2×10’s, and we don’t need wood anymore to build a house.

We built our last “we built it” home in ~ 1980, also a time of economic BS, and daily lies, and half truths, remember the gas lines.... Then there was AIDs, now it’s Covid. Some illness where “people are dying”.

Prior to the build a 2×4 was 69 cents, after we were done they had gone to $2.49 a stick. I don’t think they are going to go back to “normal” again.

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#11 posted 04-20-2021 05:45 PM

The conspiracy theories concerning price rises (across industries) are hilarious. And theres always “that guy” on enthusiast forums – guess we found ours.

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#12 posted 04-20-2021 05:57 PM

You know guys, it not like lumber grows on trees!

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#13 posted 04-20-2021 06:41 PM



You know guys, it not like lumber grows on trees!

- stevejack


Nor does it require fuel, steel, labor, machinery, etc to go from tree to lumber…

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#14 posted 04-20-2021 06:44 PM


LMAO…. Great read.

I mostly like

“As with most things it will balance out eventually.”

I figure it will be right about when they have figured out plastics to the point they will be making plastic 2×10 s, and we don t need wood anymore to build a house.

We built our last “we built it” home in ~ 1980, also a time of economic BS, and daily lies, and half truths, remember the gas lines.... Then there was AIDs, now it s Covid. Some illness where “people are dying”.

Prior to the build a 2×4 was 69 cents, after we were done they had gone to $2.49 a stick. I don t think they are going to go back to “normal” again.

- therealSteveN


https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-inflation-rate-history-by-year-and-forecast-3306093

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#15 posted 04-20-2021 07:18 PM

As a former participant in the forestry industry in Northern California and Oregon, I see the high prices as a lack of production. The vast majority of the sawmills in California and southern Oregon were shut down 20 years ago so we’ve become dependent on foreign lumber. Lumber companies refuse to open new mills on the west coast, choosing to load logs into shipping containers and send them off to Timbuktu for milling. This cannot be cheap, regardless of how cheaply you can ship and mill lumber. Many factors go into this, but there is one thing that is for certain, I’d sure love to see our timber being processed here. Well, I’m off to the big orange box to buy some $6 2 X 4’s.

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