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WalterLantz

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04-18-2021 03:41 AM

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I’ve been trying to find American made power tools, but it seems that all “American” manufacturers are all made in China. Are there any more American-made woodworking tools? I know DeWalt makes many (not all) in the United States, but what about shop equipment?

I’m in the market for a benchtop drill press and jointer. I’m willing to pay more if it’s made in the USA.


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Aj2

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#1 posted 04-18-2021 03:45 AM

No there isn’t anymore. Only used ones left.
Everything changed in the 80s and went off shore to a land faraway

-- Aj

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WoodenDreams

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#2 posted 04-18-2021 04:21 AM

Whiteside router bits, Eagle America router bits, Forrest saw blades, Incra, Lie-Nelson, Starrett, Robust, to name a few. Oneway lathes made in Canada.

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Mosquito

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#3 posted 04-18-2021 04:28 AM

Robust for lathes.
Northfield if you can swing the sizes and prices.

But “hobby” grade, I can’t think of any anymore. I think Delta finally moved the last of its production overseas a few years ago.

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SMP

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#4 posted 04-18-2021 04:42 AM

Geez, even if you could find ones that were “Made in the USA from global materials” it probably means that 99.999% was made in China but it was shipped to the US where a robot put the last screw in.

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#5 posted 04-18-2021 04:57 AM



Geez, even if you could find ones that were “Made in the USA from global materials” it probably means that 99.999% was made in China but it was shipped to the US where a robot put the last screw in.

- SMP


bingo they say made in america or assembled in america.a hammer can say mede in america if they stick the head on the handle.those days are long gone and i really i dont even care anymore.it’s a global economy and that isn’t gonna change back ever again.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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CWWoodworking

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#6 posted 04-18-2021 11:43 AM

Woodmaster sanders/planers/moulders. Built like tanks and somewhat affordable.

I wish woodmaster would try making a multifunction tablesaw/router table deal. I think they could be successful. Would take some out of the box thinking.

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CWWoodworking

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#7 posted 04-18-2021 11:46 AM


Geez, even if you could find ones that were “Made in the USA from global materials” it probably means that 99.999% was made in China but it was shipped to the US where a robot put the last screw in.

- SMP

bingo they say made in america or assembled in america.a hammer can say mede in america if they stick the head on the handle.those days are long gone and i really i dont even care anymore.it s a global economy and that isn t gonna change back ever again.

- pottz

Some things I wish had a chance. Others, meh overseas can keep. I don’t want society working like dogs trying to make money on a 10$ t-shirt.

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xedos

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#8 posted 04-18-2021 12:37 PM

How much more are you willing to pay Walter ?

When people say this , they have good intentions. When it actually comes time to pull the trigger they usually can’t stomach the pain of what it really costs to buy a USA made product.

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#9 posted 04-18-2021 01:30 PM

Festool’s web site says they’re going to start producing some components in the USA at their Indiana site. Of course, they’ve got the pricing that could support it.

-- Ray

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corelz125

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#10 posted 04-18-2021 01:55 PM

Taking pride in doing your job isn’t the same as it used to be in this country. So even if it is made here might not be the same quality as before.

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GT350

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#11 posted 04-18-2021 02:43 PM

I would like to see a manufacturer make these tools in the US, if the quality was outstanding I think people would buy it. I buy items from Lie-Nielson and am not worried about the price and I am not alone, just look at how long it takes to get a plane right now, but the quality is far and away better than most other hand tools. Another example of a company making quality tools and getting a good price for them, while not made in the US, would be Festool.

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tvrgeek

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#12 posted 04-18-2021 05:44 PM

Delta makes tools in South Carolina. Quality about two steps below Harbor Freight. DeWalt makes a few in Maryland. All mine happen to be made in China.

I buy the tool for the tool. One can make superb tools anywhere, one can make junk anywhere. There are more boutique hand tool makers here, Clifton, Lie Neilson etc. Some Starrett. Nice stuff. But most are outsourced. Some of the traditional tool names are outsourced, and the low end ( hobby level) is pretty junky, but they make true production machines as well as ever.

The Chinese OEMs make what the brand requests ( usually). The brand is requesting to hit a price point. Don’t blame Geetech, TTI, ITW, Harvey, Quangdo, etc. Blame Jet, Grizzly, etc. for not managing their supply.

Makita used to have a large US facility. One of the most automated. They have factories in about a dozen countries. All mine are either Japan (old) or China.

One of the reasons for few large power tools made here is the lack of iron foundries. The total lack of emission and safety standards make China the basic sole source for raw casting. For everything else due to automation, location does not matter than much. As power tools do not change much the design pipeline is not important. Tools like jointers have not changed in 200 years. A drill is a drill. Riving knives forced some TS redesign. So chasing technically acceptable lowest cost in good business. The problem is when the brand name does not keep close tabs on the OEM or is foolish enough to not be able to transfer defect costs back. That is when quality* (conformance to spec) suffers.

Do not confuse quality, as in conformance to spec with good design, function , reliability etc. Different subjects, different responsibilities.

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dbw

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#13 posted 04-18-2021 06:41 PM

Let’s not forget quality tools make in other countries. Veritas (Canada), Festool (Germany), and Arbortech (Australia) come to mind.

-- Woodworking is like a vicious cycle. The more tools you buy the more you find to buy.

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Badgerstate

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#14 posted 04-18-2021 06:51 PM

For power tools you arent going to find many, if any, really. DeWalt and Craftsman claim, “made in the usa with global materials” but often really all they are doing is the final assembly, so 99% it isnt made in the USA.
IMO, its time for everyone to get over the notion that made in China is bad. The simple fact is that theres a great many products made in China nowdays that are of great quality and the pay/working conditons isnt anywhere near as bad as many of us think.

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Foghorn

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#15 posted 04-18-2021 07:21 PM


Do not confuse quality, as in conformance to spec with good design, function , reliability etc. Different subjects, different responsibilities.

- tvrgeek


To clarify a little. Don’t confuse quality, in the true sense of the word, with quality control or assurance both of which compare and ensure conformance to a specification. Quality on its own is just that. A standard of excellence.

-- Darrel

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