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mawilsonWCR

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04-16-2021 03:51 PM

Suppose Lumberjocks was to get a makeover, not that it is. What capabilities would you want to keep? What features would you like to see that aren’t currently available?

Keep:
  • Forum, though an improved version.
  • Member blogs.
  • Galleries – Projects, Shops, etc.
Add:
  • Project plan uploads licensed under Creative Commons.
  • Wood wiki to collect knowledge.

What do you think?

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DevinT

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#1 posted 04-16-2021 04:20 PM

I would add “Add: Support for mobile platforms such as iOS”

The site currently is not mobile friendly, more like mobile hostile.

-- Devin, SF, CA

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#2 posted 04-17-2021 05:12 AM

Ah! Yes! In web speak it’s called “responsive”. A definite add.

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#3 posted 04-17-2021 11:24 AM

Responsiveness is not what I am referring to. It doesn’t need to become a rich internet application to be mobile friendly, but rather the portrait vs landscape view on mobile needs to be fixed. Portrait mode is all but unusable.

-- Devin, SF, CA

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#4 posted 04-18-2021 01:14 PM

Wilson – I see that you are in Astatula – I have some family that lives there and my brother used to own the biker bar there on the lake.

are you a member of OneFora ?? are you asking this question on behalf of Verticalscope Inc. or just for general conversation.

John

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mawilsonWCR

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#5 posted 04-19-2021 04:55 AM

DevinT; Responsive websites employ CSS and some lightweight JavaScript to adapt content to the browser display space. Being responsive doesn’t require a web app. It can be as simple as adopting a responsive framework such as Bootstrap. This site is partially responsive. It will adapt, sort of, at a width of 500 pixels. Some elements don’t work well. For example forum and projects has some wrapping effects. It’s not objectionable for projects. Landscape reverts to the desktop format which doesn’t work well on smart phones. While a fully responsive, RESTful web app would make an interesting community portal, that isn’t necessary for a fully responsive site.

John; No, I’m not part of OneFora nor am I asking on behalf of Verticalscope. I’ve developed web sites off and on since almost the beginning of the web back when some browsers were text based and others supported images. I spent the last few years prior to retirement developing web apps. I often look at sites with content I’m interested in and think about what could make it better. Some small part of me would like to go “field of dreams”, but then realism kicks in. So, yeah, this is a general conversation.

PS. I don’t actually live in Astatula, just in the ZIP code. There’s too many people in the city :-)

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#6 posted 04-19-2021 11:55 AM

thanks for your reply.
I live South of Orlando near Disney and this place is crazy stupid with new construction, growth and TOURISTS.
when I find me a new place up in the “Mountains” I’m outta here !!!

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#7 posted 04-19-2021 12:04 PM

mawilsonWCR, thanks for explaining. Do you have hosting for a prototype?

-- Devin, SF, CA

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mawilsonWCR

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#8 posted 04-19-2021 05:27 PM

I have a host for my domain. I haven’t built a prototype. As I mentioned above, I don’t think “yet another woodworking forum” wood be very successful. There is no way it would match the volume of content at either Lumberjocks or Sawmill Creek.

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DevinT

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#9 posted 04-19-2021 05:41 PM

mawilsonWCR, build it and they will come. Like the Field of Dreams.

I don’t think the folks here are all that jazzed with:

  • advertisements
  • a dated look-and-feel
  • problematic double-posting because of CGI-based architecture
  • inability to host more than 6 photos for a completed project (without resorting to image embeds)
  • a broken gallery that expects Macromedia/Adobe Flash to be installed
  • cumbersome/problematic image embedding (you cannot embed images from an HTTP source because Firefox and Chrome, but not Safari, default to not-allowing images to load from HTTP when the page is viewed via HTTPS)
  • lacking an inline video player to play embedded videos (as well as a general lack of a method of embedding videos)
  • long links break forum viewing

I am sure that someone that has been on here longer than 25 days can add to the list, but those are the things that I have noticed and I have barely used the site.

If you made a website that was extremely basic BUT targeted the above issues, I think you’d have no problem growing members.

Also, don’t worry about how much content there is here. Within my first 3 days here at LumberJocks, I created 12 projects. It doesn’t take long to build momentum if you make a good product.

LJ and SMC have their issues and I ask about hosting because if you did create something stellar, you ought to be prepared for mass migration.

-- Devin, SF, CA

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DevinT

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#10 posted 04-19-2021 05:43 PM

Also, I don’t think there is such a thing as “yet another woodworking forum” <—I can name two. This one and Sawmill Creek. That’s not exactly “bursting at the seems” with woodworking forums.

From what I understand, the options are limited, severely dated, and have encumbered ownerships (LumberJocks is not even run by anyone interested in woodwork; they’re just using the traffic to generate Ad revenue—or so I have been told).

-- Devin, SF, CA

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#11 posted 04-19-2021 05:46 PM

Why come on this site and complain? Yes, there are numerous shortcomings with all forums.

I am waiting to see you invest the money and create your own site.

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DevinT

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#12 posted 04-19-2021 06:44 PM

Redoak49:

I don’t know, certainly not me. If you see someone complaining let me know, so that I can add weight to the short-comings that have already been observed. I know that some of the above-documented issues have been complained-about, though none of the complaining has come from me.

Do not confuse a discussion about developing something better with a complaint.

I don’t need to create my own site … I am not even offering. That would be up to the OP.

-- Devin, SF, CA

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pottz

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#13 posted 04-19-2021 07:05 PM

improvements could be made thats for sure like the memorium that ive made requests for but everything takes money and this being a “free” forum there isn’t much of it.someone could build a better site and yes some here would jump ship but unless everyone i know here up and leaves ill be staying put.all in all this is a great place to be with lots of great people that have given me lots of information and friendship.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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DevinT

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#14 posted 04-19-2021 07:18 PM

I personally was approaching the OP’s topic from the attitude that some folks like myself have energy enough for multiple sites

-- Devin, SF, CA

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Tennwood

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#15 posted 04-19-2021 07:30 PM

I would change the forum section into three individual sections.

1. Move the “Off-Topic Content” to its own section so it doesn’t knock relative woodworking questions and comments off the top of the lists when someone adds a comment.

2. Move the “What is your favorite …..; ?” type topics and blogs to its own section. These tend to acquire a lot of irrelevant chitchat (in the tens of thousands) and only knocks the relevant woodworking questions and comments off the top of the list when a new comment is added.

This includes personal blogs – yes this includes Stumpy’s Woodworking Journal and similar forum topics and blogs. Having topics that generate thousands of comments tend to just get diluted by a handful of Jocks with their chat room comments and just knocks the other forum questions and comments off the top of the list.

Any topic that generates over 100 comments should automatically be moved to this section. Unfortunately when a topic gets this far is seems to just turn into a chat section or pissing contest.

3. Make the Forum section just for relevant woodworking questions and comments.

-- Jim, SE Tennessee, "Don't spare the kindling Dear, we have plenty"

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