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firefighterontheside

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04-11-2021 02:38 AM

I’m going to make flooring for my master bedroom. I will use all wood that I have milled on my sawmill and then dried in my kiln. I’ve never had a shaper or a power feeder. I found one for sale not too far away. It is a Delta 43-375 with an unknown model Delta power feeder. I believe the $1500 asking price is a bit high, but it also comes with some cutters. Looking at feeders like this I see they can be quite expensive so maybe the total price is not too bad. I’m looking for anyone with more experience with shapers and power feeders. My plan is to buy, use for making flooring and then sell again down the road.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.


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#1 posted 04-11-2021 05:35 AM

Feeder runs $500-$1500 by itself. Shaper $1500-$5000. Both new. $1000-$3750 is what I would expect to pay for both used. Cutters can be several hundred each.

Looks like a decent deal if everything works smoothly and no obvious damage.

I’d buy it w/o shipping.

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#2 posted 04-11-2021 12:40 PM

$1500 is a big hit up front, but it’ll come back later…..

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#3 posted 04-11-2021 01:04 PM

Seems high to me too but could be fair if everything is ready to go without having to fix anything or replace any parts. What spindles and how many cutters it comes with can play heavily into the value. I bought a similar setup years ago for a song just to fix up and resell, I only used it once. The spindle bearings especially have to be scrutinized as they’re the most expensive should they need replacement. If everything is single phase, that certainly makes it worth more.

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#4 posted 04-11-2021 01:06 PM

It doesn’t take a large shaper nor large power feeder to make flooring…

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#5 posted 04-11-2021 01:30 PM

You need a power feeder and guides to keep the stock tight to both the table and cutter. Any variation caused by hand feeding will echo directly into unevenness in the finished floor.

Generally you don’t plan on sanding your brand new floor, but if you hand feed the entire rooms worth, you’re going to have to.

Flooring needs to be tight and precise. I wouldn’t even try without a power feed. The feeder not only feeds the stock, but it insures that the stock will be tight to the deck. Infeed guides help keep the stock tight to the cutterhead.

This is not a “hand fed” job.

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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#6 posted 04-11-2021 01:41 PM

2700$ new from grizzly. Minus cutters.

Seems like a great deal compared to table saws. In my neck of the woods Craigslist table saws are listed for what they were new.

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#7 posted 04-11-2021 02:07 PM

Thanks everyone. I will maybe make an offer of 1250 and see what happens. I also found a smaller buffalo brand shaper with no power feeder. I’d have to find one or buy a smaller one from grizzly. Maybe I would get something I could use with my router table after I get rid of the shaper.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#8 posted 04-11-2021 02:42 PM

If you have to get a grizzly feeder, keep in mind the baby is probably not suitable for flooring.

I use it for cope and stick cutters and it’s ok. I wish I would have got the bigger one.

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#9 posted 04-11-2021 02:53 PM

Baby will work fine…

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#10 posted 04-11-2021 03:06 PM

Other than being longer stock, I wouldn’t think that cutting t and g is any harder work for the feeder than doing rail and stile.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#11 posted 04-11-2021 03:50 PM

The baby has plenty of power, it’s the mechanism that i don’t like. Just too much flex.

If you look at the pictures on line, you will understand why.

The baby will definitely work for a one time deal. But If you wanted to possibly use it down the road, I’d take one step up.

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#12 posted 04-11-2021 04:26 PM

This will be a one time deal for flooring. After that it’s use would be for stiles on the router table.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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CWWoodworking

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#13 posted 04-11-2021 05:00 PM

Do you have room to keep it for S&R?

Running door parts on shaper is much nicer than router table.

Personally If that delta is in good working order, you don’t get much better than that for 1500$.

Then if you want to still get rid of the shaper, keep the power feeder for your router table.

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#14 posted 04-11-2021 05:43 PM

I don’t have room in my shop for sure. I’m gonna use it in the garage, which my shop is attached to. Someday I’d like to park my truck back in the garage. Lol. That hasnt happened in about 9 months. The delta is about a 2 hour drive and that’s my reason for straying from it. I also found a very nice looking Jet that is not very far away. He’s asking 900, but I would offer 700. No cutters or power feeder with that.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#15 posted 04-11-2021 06:37 PM

I go with a Delta over a JET given the choice and the power feeder will make things easier despite being possible without it as was done successfully for a very long time by many.

-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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