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Forum topic by AlaskaGuy posted 04-07-2021 02:27 AM 711 views 1 time favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-07-2021 02:27 AM

One guys view of the high prices.

https://youtu.be/3Ssa7yooX3k

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!


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#1 posted 04-07-2021 12:36 PM

I’ve done research on my own too and the “mysterious fires” at sawmills I hadn’t heard about but it does make me wonder.

I’m in one of those areas people are fleeing too, in fact to further complicate problems in our specific neighborhood building is now finished, every available lot was built out by late last summer. Houses that were bought between $270K and $275K 2-4 years ago are selling now between $350K and $390K within 48 hours of being listed. I’m very tempted but building a similar replacement on my land up the road I already own would be between $500K and $600K with today’s lumber and labor prices, many builders are significantly backlogged too. I met with a sales person from America’s Home Place and a smaller, less appointed house would still be over $400K.

-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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#2 posted 04-07-2021 01:29 PM

I mostly agree with the points made but also think some of this is outside of the issue. Those of us old enough to remember that we have already seen this movie before. In 1992 Hurricane Andrew hit and we saw a serious spike in lumber pricing, and that was one hurricane albeit a large one. I think he got it right at the start in that our current situation can be largely boiled down to: one of the most active and destructive hurricane seasons combined with massive, nearly unprecedented wild fires.

-- Cheap is expensive! - my Dad

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#3 posted 04-07-2021 01:40 PM

Throw a little Covid on those storms and fires to limit production a bit and here we are.

Been looking for a place with some shop space Bigblockyeti but prices are high and they already have an offer before it hits the MLS. Thinking about adding on to the shed or building a big garage. Been in the same house for forty years now so the price is right.

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#4 posted 04-07-2021 01:48 PM

I believe it’s a sign of the inflation that coming. People have too much cash too or free money is chasing goods.
Our potato potus is driving our free market right off the cliff.

-- Aj

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#5 posted 04-07-2021 06:15 PM

Timber on the stump is still cheap. The mills are the bottleneck. Buy a woodmiser and and a kiln and you are set. I wonder what the prices of those items are doing?

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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#6 posted 04-07-2021 06:27 PM



Timber on the stump is still cheap. The mills are the bottleneck. Buy a woodmiser and and a kiln and you are set. I wonder what the prices of those items are doing?

- Ocelot


I have often thought of getting a woodmiser when I retire. I already have a commercial building I could stack and dry the wood in. The only thing I can’t get my head around is what size truck and trailer I would need to transport whole logs to my building to process here or to take a mobile mill to the site of the logs. There is also that thing of I don’t know what wood is worth and what it costs to mill it. I would think I could build a relationship with local tree companies to mitigate there removal cost for good hardwood maybe.

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#7 posted 04-07-2021 07:47 PM


Timber on the stump is still cheap. The mills are the bottleneck. Buy a woodmiser and and a kiln and you are set. I wonder what the prices of those items are doing?

- Ocelot

Ordered mine March 1st, in stock on May 21. Originally the build date for the mill wasn’t until July 8, so it’s already getting here sooner than originally expect. Hopefully in a couple more weeks it’ll be in stock even earlier. It hasn’t effected prices much that I can tell, lead times on the other hand have been effected. The bigger mills, like an LT28 and larger were backordered until 2022 at the time I placed my order.

-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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#8 posted 04-07-2021 11:42 PM

Hardwood prices from commercial suppliers have gone up some but not a lot. Biggest impact so far is baltic birch shortages. Prices aren’t too much higher but backorders are common.

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#9 posted 04-07-2021 11:46 PM

Big block,

You and I need to go into business, you cut and I get the wood, I think it could work ;-)

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#10 posted 04-08-2021 12:22 AM

I need a bigger truck, bigger trailer, a tractor & a skid steer, anyone bringing those to the table and willing to split everything 50/50 is someone I want to talk to. I just found out my neighbor has a rather large contract clearing a lot of under brush on hundreds of acres in Croft state park, I need to chat with him about what is done with some of the downed larger trees.

-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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#11 posted 04-08-2021 12:28 AM

My shop is an example of what OnhillWW was pointing to. The walls are 2×6 construction. Not one of the 2’xs is full length. Instead, every one is finger joints. Cheap 2x’s were hard to come by, like nylon stockings, coffee, silk and so on in another, previous war era.

NOW, we have a destroyed economy trying to provide products and not able to catch up (sure makes that socialism look even more sucky). It’s already got to the point a big box pretend 3/4” sheet (metric 23/32 crap) competes with a box of 9’s in price. Of course, printing more money with nothing backing it wouldn’t have anything to do with it.

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#12 posted 04-08-2021 12:46 AM

This has been going on since before the current POTUS. Covid, forest fires, weather and important restrictions are all major factors. Like anything else, this too shall pass. Prices are indeed high at the moment and hopefully will drop somewhat when things get to the new normal. So at the moment, I’m making more things from pallet wood.

“worrying is like sitting in a rocking chair…gives you something to do but gets you no place”

-- "worrying is like sitting in a rocking chair...gives you something to do but gets you no place"

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#13 posted 04-08-2021 03:30 AM

Spent 40 years in the Sawmill Industry retiring in 2013(Am still connected with the mill I worked for) and spent a career riding the rollercoaster. Saw a lot of mills shut down during the tough time but our company has been at it since 1946. One thing that has struck me this time around is the difference between the run up in lumber prices vs. the log prices. Up here in the Pacific NW lumber prices have increased upwards of 300%. I’ve never seen anything like now, $1200/m for 2×4, $52 for 1/2” CDX. However, log prices have gone up maybe 30%, not much higher than they have ever been even in the best markets. In the Southeast US there is even more of a discrepancy with log prices not at their highest while lumber prices are skyrocketing. I don’t have a good answer for this but is a little suspicious, isn’t it?

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#14 posted 04-08-2021 12:37 PM

^ Highly suspicious if you ask me.

Just another reason that pushed me to order my own mill.

-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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#15 posted 04-08-2021 02:59 PM

In all seriousness Bigblock how are you going to get the wood to your mill? I had a neighbor that lost a hickory tree in a storm and save some large sections of the trunk. A sawyer came with a mill to cut up the sections but I think he winched the logs length wise into the trailer mounted mill. The cost of the mill is not what worries me it is the cost of the truck, steer and trailer(s) that have me thinking this is all adding up fast.

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