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Forum topic by phill2mj posted 03-18-2021 10:00 PM 707 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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phill2mj

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03-18-2021 10:00 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw saw sliding panel saw power tools scm minimax question

Hey friends,

I have the opportunity to buy an SC 3 for basically nothing ($200-300) but it looks like it may have a fatal flaw. The bar that raises and lowers the arbor from the threaded control rod is cracked straight in two (see picture below). I’m guessing there’s no finding this part, and if it could be found, wouldn’t be worth it. Otherwise the saw is in good condition.. slides nicely, cast parts are flat and almost rust free, and everything is solid.

Is this fixable? Maybe get someone to weld it or stitch it? Thanks for any help in advance!


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HowardAppel

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#1 posted 03-18-2021 10:44 PM

How about having a new part machined.

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ibewjon

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#2 posted 03-18-2021 10:53 PM

An experienced welder should be able to weld or braze it. It needs to be cooled properly to prevent cracking while cooling

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#3 posted 03-18-2021 11:11 PM

I’m in the new part machined camp. You can get it machined from better material than the original, because you don’t have to make a price point.

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Kudzupatch

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#4 posted 03-19-2021 12:02 AM

Obviously none of you have priced Machine Shop work!

If you can not buy a replacement part or have that one repaired it is probably not a deal.

I worked a lot with machines shops and while I don’t now the current rates I would suspect they are in the $150+ an hour range depending on the shop. The work is slow so unless you know someone having something made is going to cost way more than you can buy a replacement … if it is available.

If that is cast iron it van be welded but it is not easy and you need someone that knows what they are doing. I THINK you heat the part, weld it hot, then put in an oven and slowly cool it. Not many people can weld it.

-- Jeff Horton * Kudzu Craft skin boats* www.kudzucraft.com

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#5 posted 03-19-2021 12:08 AM

Ask on OWWM.org about mail order welders. It wouldn’t surprise me if they have a resource for that. They found an Amish foundry that reportedly does good work and very affordably.

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#6 posted 03-19-2021 02:29 AM

So is this the same saw? I really know nothing about minimax products.
But there is a chat with a rep box. Maybe they can help source your part.

https://shopscm.us/products/minimax-sc-3c

-- John

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#7 posted 03-19-2021 02:35 AM

for what the saw cost id say it’s worth some research to see what it would cost? hell it’s worth 200 in scrap metal these days.lol.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#8 posted 03-19-2021 03:04 AM



for what the saw cost id say it s worth some research to see what it would cost? hell it s worth 200 in scrap metal these days.lol.

- pottz

+1

I guarantee someone can fix it. Its just metal.

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#9 posted 03-19-2021 03:48 AM

I think the primary thing a potential buyer would need to establish, is if that is it’s only problem, or just the problem being disclosed?

If it is I would enquire why the seller is getting rid of it? A tool that is potentially worth thousands, going for hundreds when it needs maybe a $200.00 fix to have a machinist make a new part?

I’d want to know. Doesn’t make mathematical sense.

-- Think safe, be safe

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phill2mj

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#10 posted 03-19-2021 01:10 PM

Wow, thanks for all the quick responses folks!

So for what it’s worth, it’s one of these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5qFqb_deUE (@bigJohninvegas, that’s the newer version, this one is probably at least 25 years old).

@therealSteveN you’re right, that’s what i thought too, but i did a thorough comb through. It’s in surprisingly good shape for the age. Bringing the potential value down is it’s also fence-less, which was apparently a common configuration for these, and it’s missing the hand wheel for arbor tilt (although that screw drive seems to work fine. i’m sure hand wheels are easy to find).

At the end of the day I may have to pass just for lack of shop space; that slide rail is massive. I hope someone restores it though, it seems like a nice old tool.

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#11 posted 03-19-2021 03:05 PM

The SC3 has been around for a really long time so there are knackered ones out there. Commercial work is hard on the sliding carriage too, which often picks up a “click” where it’s been used 1000s of times to crosscut narrow stock. It may be accurate enough for hardwoods but maybe not melamine and that may be one reason a shop is getting rid of it.

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#12 posted 03-19-2021 04:34 PM

Might make a lowball offer and get the part fixed. I’m sure someone can weld that arm.
Make sure the welder knows how to weld cast iron.
Back when I was having it done, the welder specified nickel rod and shot peened the heck out of the weld as it was cooling to get rid of the weld stress.

If I needed a sliding table saw and didn’t have one, I’d jump all over this one. SCMI makes a decent product. I used to use a larger version of this one at the shop I used to work in, and it’s still in production after being put in service over 20 years ago.

-- Jim, Georgia, USA

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#13 posted 03-20-2021 01:32 PM

Even if you spend a thousand bucks having a part made , you still have a well priced and capable saw.

As far as lowballing …..............it’s already there.

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Mike_D_S

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#14 posted 03-20-2021 02:43 PM

For the $200-$300 the OP initially said the price was you could double your money parting it out if the part can’t be fixed.

I agree with Xedos, in working condition that saw is probably worth $1000-$1500 without much worry. If I had to put another $1k into it starting from $300 I’d count it as a win.

-- No honey, that's not new, I've had that forever......

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bigJohninvegas

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#15 posted 03-20-2021 03:09 PM


Hey friends,
I m guessing there s no finding this part, and if it could be found, wouldn t be worth it. Otherwise the saw is in good condition.. slides nicely, cast parts are flat and almost rust free, and everything is solid.

- phill2mj

My concern is the many moving parts, and find more things wrong.
But reading your post it seems you have already covered that.
So as I posted above, (If you haven’t already done so), I would contact the company 1st. See if they have ideas to source parts.
As far as parting it out. For the most part, is there a demand for your supply? I think yes maybe since the sliding table is good. In the end if the sliding table is good you would probably cover the $200/$300 price tag.
Fences sell good to. So your time is all the cost.

I have been in a similar spot.
I was given a Omega Stubby S750 lathe.
Not running condition, and expected a bad VFD.
I have since ordered replacement parts, and will have this lathe running in no time.
But, I will now be into it for around $1500 with all I am doing to it.
Still a good deal though.
Good luck.

-- John

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