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Forum topic by Jojo170 posted 03-07-2021 10:26 PM 564 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-07-2021 10:26 PM

I am am an old guy that has been using my Cira 1940 Delta for 60+ years. It was my Dad’s before me. I have recently Upgraded it but…it’s still Ancient. I am looking to buy a knew one. I’m giving up a 3 in 1 combo/ 10” Table saw/ 6” Jointer and Router table – the Arbor does not tilt – the table tilts / no way for dust collection.

Here is my dilemma. I am wrestling with the Laguna F3 and The Harvey – Alpha HW110JC-36P’.

The F3 is 3 HP and a 27” deep table.

The Harvey Alpha is a 2HP with a 31.5” deep table. I like some of the Harvey accessory features but the Laguna has been around for a long time.

My old Delta is 1.75 HP and a 27” deep table.

Which is more critical Is the table depth or HP for a retired woodworker AND which manufacturer is be the better purchase?

Or – is there another reasonblly priced brand that I should be looking at?

Thanks for any feedback! Ed


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#1 posted 03-07-2021 11:47 PM

If you’re mostly cutting plywood and 4/4 lumber, 2hp is fine. The 31” table will give you more miter slot length for sleds or your miter gauge. That said, most get by with a 27” table if memory of cabinet saws serve (I have a format slider made in Europe).

There’s a thread about Harvey table saws, delivery and QC issues. I don’t know that anybody’s felt cheated but there have been some problems. It looks like a great saw for the money and Laguna is famous for spotty customer service, at least with the less pricey equipment.

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#2 posted 03-08-2021 12:18 AM

Thank you much Loren. Didn’t think about the miter slot length! Harvey has a slide accessory – but I have never experienced the use of one?

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#3 posted 03-08-2021 12:32 AM

Sliders are great. They aren’t always worth the investment if you don’t do a lot of wide or long crosscutting and you can certainly build a cutoff box for longer stock with a long fence and a long piece of plywood for stock support.

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#4 posted 03-08-2021 01:34 PM

Loren – Thanks again for the update – I don’t do a great deal of long/wide crosscutting but – I will check out the cutoff box.

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#5 posted 03-08-2021 02:03 PM

One other thing that enters into you decision. How much power do you have in your shop. What is the amp draw of these two sizes of motors and is your breaker big enough to run them? You said you have not in the past had a dust collector I would add a second circuit to run one of those two. You deserve a dust collector s good one and you will wonder how you ever did woodwork with out one. So in my opinion you will need a seperate 110 volt 20 amp circuit for one of those as well. Makes sure you have the wiring available or budget for it before your purchase.

Now onto my opinion I have two saws the little one I got recently to use until shop is built. It is a 1.5 horsepower 110 volt saw. It’s ok does a decent job. Certainly adequate. My other saw has a made in the use Baldor motor of 5 horsepower. Nothing slows it down a full kerf blade that is Sharp and two and a half thick maple ripping it as fast and as hard as you can push the board you cannot even make the motor sound like it is laboring one little bit. So my saying would be this never be afraid of horsepower. That stands true with farm tractors and woodworking tools.

Enjoy which ever one you decide on and think about a dust collector if you can as well.

Regards Tom

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#6 posted 03-08-2021 02:48 PM

Nice! Thank you Tom!
My old Delta runs on a dedicated 220V / 20 Amp circuit and will definitely get a dust collector. Should the dust collector be on a dedicated circuit? Any suggestions for a dust collector/ There are so many out there. Does CFM govern the size/best?

Take care – Ed

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#7 posted 03-08-2021 07:11 PM

One thing to consider about “sliders.” European style sliders put the slide right up again the blade, while add-on sliders tend to put the slider on the side of one of the tables wings. The european sliders tend to be more accurate and stay accurate, the add-ons not so much.

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#8 posted 03-08-2021 09:06 PM

F3 looks nice and some say it runs as smooth as a Powermatic, but distance from blade to front of the table is VERY short. I bought the Harvey C-300. You can find my comments here and on LumberJocks. So far, I love it.
I earlier bought a C-14 band saw which I love but passed on their G-700 dust collector in favor of a ClearView.

3 HP table saw. Shares a circuit with the 3 HP band saw. I can only use one at a time. ( 220, 20A)
5 HP dust collector . ( 220, 30A) shared with my 2 HP compressor. Only one in use at a time.
Dedicated 110 20A circuits to plug jointer or planer in.
Lights, outlets, HVAC, air cleaner etc on other circuits.

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#9 posted 03-08-2021 10:31 PM

I’ll let you know how it goes with the Fusion F2 I have on order. I noticed the depth of the saw is a little less than some, but it doesn’t bother me because I’m adding an outfeed table anyway. With shop space at a premium, it might actually be an advantage for some people.

Good luck with it!

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#10 posted 03-08-2021 11:40 PM

Thank you guys – so much -for your direction!!

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