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Forum topic by DanSawer posted 02-28-2021 06:20 PM 609 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-28-2021 06:20 PM

Topic tags/keywords: band saw advice help old tool wood

This guy near me is selling this older band saw. Its 200$. It has a 220 motor which he says is working. He isn’t positive of the cutting depth but thinks it’s over 12 inches. Can you recognize what make/model this is? Really any information is useful. Is it worth 200$. I’d be using it for general band saw work plus resawing. Im not a pro so it would not need to be that level. Thanks in advance.


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#1 posted 02-28-2021 07:06 PM

I don’t have any idea what make it is. Looks old. What is the HP rating of the motor. That will probably tell you a lot about it’s resaw capabilities. For your info, just raise the upper blade guides as far up as they go, and measure between the bottom of the guide and the table. That’s the resaw maximum. What size are the band wheels? They look to be solid cast iron. Check and see if there are a set of lower blade guides. A lot of old saws didn’t have lower guides.

This could be a great project saw, or a real nightmare. Depends on how interested you are in working on tools. If you’re just looking for a band saw, and have no interest in building or modifying tools definitely pass. If you’re into tool building (and it sounds like you’re not) it could turn into an interesting project. Jim

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#2 posted 02-28-2021 07:28 PM

Can’t help with identification of this particular saw but I would make sure that it’s a saw that is setup for cutting wood and not metal.

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#3 posted 02-28-2021 07:35 PM

If it works it is probably worth $200 but that is assuming it works, it is complete and nothing broken.

I don’t recognize it and it could ever be home made. Best thing is to just go look at it and see. It just looks pretty lightly built though.

If it is old Cast Iron machine I am sure someone at OWWM.org would recognize it.

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#4 posted 02-28-2021 09:00 PM

The difference in the “red” vs “green” makes me suspicious. It looks like the red is after market (maybe home made) covering up the front face that maybe was originally exposed or maybe the original cabinet face is damaged or gone for some reason. Also, it is hard to tell from the pictures if the table is original or home made. As Kudzupatch suggested, go to OWWM.org and see if someone there knows anything about it. It looks like it is going to require a lot of work before it is a safe functioning machine.

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#5 posted 02-28-2021 09:25 PM

I’d say it’s worth $200 if it runs and has all the parts like the upper and lower guided intact.

It looks kind of shop made. Most really old band saws are made of cast iron or have more refined steel frames than this one making me think it may have been a on off somebody made.

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#6 posted 02-28-2021 09:27 PM

Old machines can be great scores, but I’d pass on this one. With no identifying marks, there’s no telling what brand it is. I’d guess you’d have to spend a lot of time setting it up.

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#7 posted 03-01-2021 12:16 AM

Thank you all.

I got the saw in the end for 180. It takes a while for those wheels to power up but it runs well it seems. I tried out a 6 inch log I had lying around and it got through it well even with an old blade. The motor did have specs on it but I think some of you may be correct about home made components (flywheels and blade guards). But the rest of it doesn’t look home made. Now I just need to throw a resaw blade on it and see if it can handle a real job!

One more question to the group: should I do any maintenance to the flywheels or other parts? Maybe the motor can be cleaned? I’m new to a saw like this but it’s resaw capacity is what got me interested. I’ve even considered throwing a better motor on it- is that a waste of $$$?

Thanks in advance

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#8 posted 03-01-2021 01:17 AM

Need a lot better pictures of tool to help. Often differences in tension mechanism on upper wheel, blade guides, and casting numbers on frame that delivers a band saw true identity?
The covers are reminiscent of Davis & Wells, but frame is not same. Frame has Walker clues.
It’s hard to tell more from pics.

Can check VintageMachinery.org and see if find similar band saw.
Try putting this: ‘site:www.vintagemachinery.org bandsaw’ into http://DuckDuckGo.com or your favorite image search tool.

As much I prefer LumberJocks for woodworking, OWWM.org forums as best place to discuss old tools.
Can join and ask the old tool experts if they recognize it?
Just note they only allow US or EU made machine discussions. Chinesium tool discussions are banned.

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#9 posted 03-01-2021 07:43 PM

I started an account with the old woodworking tool forum but in the meantime here are some better photos.

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#10 posted 03-01-2021 08:15 PM

belt-tires, guides. SOP. A AX series cogged belt wil help the smoothness.
Some of it looks like it is wood. Table PB? Are the wheels even iron? Could it have been a kit? Steel box frame, tilt etc. and then DIY the rest? As far as using it, guide post looks inconvenient to adjust.


Need a lot better pictures of tool to help. Often differences in tension mechanism on upper wheel, blade guides, and casting numbers on frame that delivers a band saw true identity?
The covers are reminiscent of Davis & Wells, but frame is not same. Frame has Walker clues.
It s hard to tell more from pics.

Can check VintageMachinery.org and see if find similar band saw.
Try putting this: site:www.vintagemachinery.org bandsaw into http://DuckDuckGo.com or your favorite image search tool.

As much I prefer LumberJocks for woodworking, OWWM.org forums as best place to discuss old tools.
Can join and ask the old tool experts if they recognize it?
Just note they only allow US or EU made machine discussions. Chinesium tool discussions are banned.

Well that’s pretty arrogant of them. Aisan tools are getting old now too. Not all are HF level junk.

Best Luck.

- CaptainKlutz


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#11 posted 03-01-2021 08:54 PM

Looks like a homemade frankensaw – first hint is the wheels are made of wood. Whoever did it did a pretty good job though! May have come partially in a kit form, parts may have been scavenged from other machinery, no telling. Either way, I doubt you will find a manual for it ;)

Cheers,
Brad

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#12 posted 03-02-2021 01:05 AM

+1 homemade Frankensaw

The frame has been giving me fits, but now I see the wooden parts includes the wheels, my first thought of home made welded stand is probably true. :)

Have never seen a kit for DIY band saw, but there use to be DIY kits in 30’s to 50’s for many other WW tools, on what was called a universal work bench with common drive motor on bottom shelf. Atlas,ToolCraft (Montgomery Ward), and Homecraft (Delta) were common brands of these components. Vintage machinery site has some ‘dirty paper’ publications on these tools.

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#13 posted 03-02-2021 01:14 AM

Gilliom mfg. used to sell kits with 18” wheels. You would build a wood frame.

http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=369&tab=0

Last I heard (read) they were still in business. They might be sitting on a lot of old stock from before the Taiwan machines became available. Before that machinery was pretty costly in relation to what average people earned.

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#14 posted 03-02-2021 10:23 PM

I know a fellow in town that has a “Gil-Built” kit homemade bandsaw. Basically a small kit of the critical parts (shafts, bearings, etc) and everything else is on you and a few sheets of plywood for the frame. base, and table.

Not industrial quality/strength, but dang if it doesn’t work fine for 90% of typical bandsaw needs.

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#15 posted 03-02-2021 10:33 PM

That is the name I could not remember.


Gilliom mfg. used to sell kits with 18” wheels. You would build a wood frame.

http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=369&tab=0

Last I heard (read) they were still in business. They might be sitting on a lot of old stock from before the Taiwan machines became available. Before that machinery was pretty costly in relation to what average people earned.

- Loren


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