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02-26-2021 09:28 PM

Hello, my starter capacitor went on my Delta table saw. I am covered under warranty but it seems to be taking them forever to get back to me and give me any update when I’m going to get a new starter capacitor so I got a little impatient went over to Grainger today ask them if they had a starter capacitor similar to this one I have. As you can see in the picture the one they gave me is larger and some of the ratings are a little different. I’m not even sure if this is going to fit with the casing back over it and I haven’t tried it out yet. The reason I’m here is I’m wondering if anybody has any knowledge of these capacitors and if I put this capacitor on my Delta table saw will it cause an issue, will it harm the motor or will something break because of this capacitor has a different voltage?

Thanks!


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#1 posted 02-27-2021 12:59 AM

The higher voltage won’t hurt anything. They both are 40 microfarads so they should be interchangeable.

As long as you can get it securely mounted it should work fine.

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#2 posted 02-27-2021 12:55 PM



The higher voltage won t hurt anything. They both are 40 microfarads so they should be interchangeable.

As long as you can get it securely mounted it should work fine.

- Madmark2

Thank you!

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#3 posted 02-27-2021 01:50 PM



The higher voltage won t hurt anything. They both are 40 microfarads so they should be interchangeable.

As long as you can get it securely mounted it should work fine.

- Madmark2


+1

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#4 posted 02-27-2021 04:53 PM

Had the same issue on a General years back, after making a nice case for new larger capacitor. Only to find it did not repair the motor issue, I found out some dust had gotten to the centrifugal start switch. After a good cleaning and plugging some small holes on motor casing, problem solved and the new unused capacitor sits waiting on shelf.


my starter capacitor went

- SwampFox76


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#5 posted 02-27-2021 09:01 PM

Only to find it did not repair the motor issue [...]

Which is why people generally test components before replacing them ;)

A quick test with a cheap multimeter (in resistance mode) could have saved you the time, effort and cash.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#6 posted 03-02-2021 11:23 AM



Had the same issue on a General years back, after making a nice case for new larger capacitor. Only to find it did not repair the motor issue, I found out some dust had gotten to the centrifugal start switch. After a good cleaning and plugging some small holes on motor casing, problem solved and the new unused capacitor sits waiting on shelf.

my starter capacitor went

- SwampFox76

- cut50

How did you clean the centrifugal switch? Also, can you lubricate it? I’m still having the same issue and was led to believe that my issue was for to the capacitor, I’m covered under warranty but Delta is taking their sweet time getting the replacement capacitor out to me. Unfortunately I didn’t have a multimeter at the time to test the original, I borrowed one off of a friend and tested it, so if it goes to infinity on a digital the numbers will rise until it reads OL, is this correct? Luckily I can take back the capacitor I bought.
I have taken off the casing where the centrifugal switch is I’ve gotten under the table saw hit the power switch and I noticed that the centrifugal switch is not opening. If I pull on the blade from the top when this happens it’ll slowly start gaining momentum until it gets up to the speed it’s supposed to be at. If I do this and allow it to run for a little while, turn it off and back on it’ll fire up no problem and I can see the switch opening, but if I let it sit for too long I run into the same issue. Now my shop is pretty cold because I’m working out of a shit it is heated with the heat doesn’t do too much for it if it’s in the 30s outside I can get it somewhere around the fifties in there. I’ve read and have been in contact with some other guy who was experiencing the same issue in the cold. I’m also trying to figure out if I can lubricate the centrifugal switch what exactly are the components that can be lubed? I can send pictures later today when I get up there. When I take it off there’s a little plastic cap I can take off and see what looks like brass components attached to springs when I pull each one of those it seems like it’ll open the central fuel switch I’m not sure if that’s just a part of it but then behind this plastic housing is the part that gets pulled away from another component I don’t know if that can be lubricated as well.

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#7 posted 03-02-2021 12:59 PM

Here’s the images. So initially what I started realizing was the saw blade one in spin it was almost like there was something holding it back if you pull in it hard enough it would make it clicking noise like he just snap something and allowed it to spin freely again. if I turn that white plastic piece the same thing happens in that clicking noise that would happen if I pulled on the blade to free it is coming right from that centrifugal switch area.

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#8 posted 03-02-2021 05:21 PM

What you described was exactly what my table saw did, which is a cabinet saw, so the motor is enclosed. By your photos you have a contractor saw, so the saw dust would not be near the issue. Had to spin the blade to get the saw to work, not the safest thing to do, for sure.
As I said I just blew the fine dust out of the switch area and sealed up some small holes in the motor casing, and have had no more problems. Not turning on my DC for every cut was most of my issue.
I really do not know that much about centrifugal switches, if you do use a lubricate make sure it`s what call a “dry” one, any oil on it will hold the dust.
I live where it`s winter for 5 months, and my 3hp dust collector is in the cold all the time and works in any temp
I ask it to. The cold will slow things down some but that is usually over in less than a minute.

There are people here that can help you with your switch issue far better than I can, I just luck out with my problem, sure someone will be along with more help.

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#9 posted 03-02-2021 05:54 PM



What you described was exactly what my table saw did, which is a cabinet saw, so the motor is enclosed. By your photos you have a contractor saw, so the saw dust would not be near the issue. Had to spin the blade to get the saw to work, not the safest thing to do, for sure.
As I said I just blew the fine dust out of the switch area and sealed up some small holes in the motor casing, and have had no more problems. Not turning on my DC for every cut was most of my issue.
I really do not know that much about centrifugal switches, if you do use a lubricate make sure it`s what call a “dry” one, any oil on it will hold the dust.
I live where it`s winter for 5 months, and my 3hp dust collector is in the cold all the time and works in any temp
I ask it to. The cold will slow things down some but that is usually over in less than a minute.

There are people here that can help you with your switch issue far better than I can, I just luck out with my problem, sure someone will be along with more help.

- cut50

I’m going to have to try to see if I can’t blow some of the dust out I mean it doesn’t look like there’s much in there and I’ve been going insane trying to figure out what’s happening with this saw. I came across a page on Facebook where people were warning other people against buying this because they all seem to be having a similar issue. Delta has apparently also acknowledged that in the 36 725 and 36 725 t2 they know they put out some bad motors.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=562294791138528&id=359907944710548&sfnsn=mo

In that link you’ll see something I found which I’m starting to believe might be my problem, if you look at my pictures and his pictures the coloration of those pads even though I don’t have mine removed look very similar so I have a feeling if I take it off and look at them the friction pads are more than likely burnt.

I just got off the phone with Delta trying to ask to be escalated to a manager because I read a few people who had to go through about five managers to finally get a motor replacement, they told me I have to take my entire table saw over an hour away and they don’t know how long I would lose it for. I have to wait for that guy to report back to Delta and then Delta to get back to me.

The guy in that Facebook post I did send a message to and I’m hoping that he gets back to me and has found some type of better set up or solution for these friction pads if that’s what is causing my issue because if it’s a simple upgrade I’ll do it myself won’t have to lose my table saw and hopefully that solves my issue. Every time I break that saw blade free whether it’s pulling on the blade or twisting that plastic housing that click is coming right from that plastic housing.

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#10 posted 03-02-2021 09:42 PM

Sounds like you are closing in on the issue, painful as it is. Maybe try to talking Delta into sending you the new motor and you will return the old one, cause of covid issues. (reason of the year for anything)
Try to blow some dust out, and check the pads, pretty sad that Delta with all their history can not find or already
have a good supplier of motors, and now the manager chase.
Best of Luck

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#11 posted 03-03-2021 04:19 PM


Sounds like you are closing in on the issue, painful as it is. Maybe try to talking Delta into sending you the new motor and you will return the old one, cause of covid issues. (reason of the year for anything)
Try to blow some dust out, and check the pads, pretty sad that Delta with all their history can not find or already
have a good supplier of motors, and now the manager chase.
Best of Luck

- cut50

I’ve gotten a little further too. I want to post this here so anybody having this issue hopefully they can easily stumble across this post. The post where I talked about the issue with the friction pads, the Facebook link in my previous post, I got in contact with the guy who started that post he told me to get in contact with a guy that was in the comments by the name of Frank Heizler, you can find that information in the link to his Facebook page. Frank got back to me sent me a PDF of instructions for a kit that he sells to help improve the issues with the motor.
Here’s the link to that kit

Non T2 kit
https://py.pl/MyoT4

T2 kit
https://www.paypal.com/instantcommerce/checkout/5ECX95JK3HLZJ

The original guy I spoke with said he also sends those instructions out with the kit. It doesn’t seem like it’s too hard to do. I’m going to be ordering this kit tomorrow hopefully it gets to me as soon as possible and I’ll keep you guys posted.

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#12 posted 04-07-2021 01:25 PM

Sorry I haven’t updated on this post.
I did buy the kit for my table saw, installed everything according to the directions and now it fires up without any issues. If anyone else is experiencing the issue I had I highly recommend buying this kit. I would recommend it just to get rid of the flaws that the saw has. There’s also a good group on Facebook for the Delta 36-725 I would recommend joining if you have this saw.

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#13 posted 04-08-2021 05:36 AM

Great! the kit worked out for you, just a dam shame Delta failed to be responsible.
Happy cutting….

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#14 posted 04-08-2021 09:48 PM



Great! the kit worked out for you, just a dam shame Delta failed to be responsible.
Happy cutting….

- cut50

I hear ya. I know it’s not a top of the line table saw but $600 is still pretty expensive and from what I understand I think they raised the price by $50 or $80.

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