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Forum topic by Robert posted 02-26-2021 08:33 PM 279 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-26-2021 08:33 PM

I’m having a heck of time finding BIN shellac based, which is my go to.

I’d rather not get into a lot of thinning & something that dries or sand quickly.

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#1 posted 02-26-2021 10:12 PM

Huh?????

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#2 posted 02-26-2021 11:28 PM

Yeh. The last time I bought some I had to order it. My local big box only sells the rattle cans for some reason. For spraying, I’m not sure what a good alternative is.

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#3 posted 02-26-2021 11:54 PM

Bought the last 2 at one of the HD’s in my city.

AK guy that didn’t make sense, did it?

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#4 posted 02-27-2021 12:11 AM

Rust-Oleum owns Zinsser which seems to be a primary source of the B-I-N Shellac base primer. It should be avaliable in most big box stores. If you don’t need the opaque hiding qualities of the BIN you can get Zinsser’s shellac primer sealer which is clear. It is in a 2# cut shellac.

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#5 posted 02-27-2021 05:15 AM

??
My local BORG are always loaded with Zinseer B.I.N. Shellac based primer?
The 4 stores with 5 miles of my home all have at least 8 gallons, and couple 5 gallon pails EACH.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Zinsser-1-gal-B-I-N-Shellac-Based-White-Interior-Primer-and-Sealer-00901/100398381

It has been harder to find at Lowes last I checked?
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Zinsser-B-I-N-Interior-Multi-Purpose-Shellac-Wall-and-Ceiling-Primer-Actual-Net-Contents-128-fl-oz/3610420

If you have Sherwin Williams nearby, the neighborhood homeowner stores stock a shellac based primer that acts about same:
https://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/products/white-pigmented-shellac-primer
Retail price is more expensive than Zinseer, is about same price if you have commercial account or one of online coupons.

YMMV

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#6 posted 02-27-2021 12:52 PM

I guess it’s a local supply thing. I ordered a gallon on Amazon and got a delayed delivery notice followed by “your order was cancelled.

I did t know about the SW product, kinda pricey tho.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#7 posted 02-27-2021 01:10 PM

Most are now all water based. Low VOC and do not seal or hide like the the old stuff. Have you tried automotive lacquer primer?

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#8 posted 02-27-2021 01:18 PM

If you are willing to spray lacquer..

Lenmar duralaq. (available from your local Benjamin Moore store) $25/gallon locally and night and day better than BIN.

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#9 posted 02-27-2021 06:07 PM

+1 If spraying cabinets white, both solvent or WB lacquer is better choice than BIN shellac on new wood. BIN shellac is intended to fix problems on old wood, not seal new wood. Solvent based lacquer has advantage of being one of cheapest options too.

When spraying finishes, the finishing world has plethora of fantastic choices.
But you have to stop shopping at BORG and Amadud; and visit a commercial wood coatings distributor.

Depending on top coat, there are many good choices for wood primer. IME shellac is one of harder finishes to sand smooth. For Poly or WB coatings, commercial recommendation is use vinyl based grain filler/primer. When spraying lacquer; can get easy to sand, white out, primer versions too.

Your profile shows NE FL. Suggest you call or stop by Duval Paint in Jacksonville. They carry both Chemcraft and Lemnar commercial wood coatings. Can also contact Richelieu in Jacksonville for commercial wood coatings too. They carry Mohawk, ML Campbell, and SIVAM (has great WB 2K poly).
FWIW – With Covid and work from home, my local experts are not in store right now, but easy to reach via phone. Just call the main number and ask to speak with wood furniture/cabinet coating expert.
Your finishing skills will jump to next level once you start using top of line commercial finishes.

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#10 posted 02-27-2021 10:06 PM

So I found this out after I drove 20 miles and bought 2 gallons?

I am not a professional painter nor do have pro equipment, but thx for the info.

Truthfully I’m confused enough as it is about paint and finishes. I’m going with what I know works for me and my spray set up. I’ve been using it for years and never had an issue. I’ve painted a couple built ins and 2 vanities using BIN primer they both look fine.

Re: new wood, I don’t think it’s debatable that shellac is an excellent sealer so I’m not sure where you’re coming from there.

I’m using Target Coatings pigmented lacquer for the finish coat. They also have a primer that I may give a go.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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