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02-14-2021 05:19 AM |
I tripped across a.good price on an older like new radial arm saw. It retailed 20 years ago at over ten thousand. So it was a high dollar well built unit in its day. Money is not a problem to purchase it but many people have told me how dangerous a radial arm saw is. Should this scare me away? I have never used one. I have a couple of shapers and people talk like they are really dangerous as well. Like any.power tool you have to understand them and give them respect but I am not in fear running a shaper. Do I have to be afraid of a radial arm saw? Regards Tom |
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#1 posted 02-14-2021 06:02 AM |
I had an old Craftsman for years and used it all the time. I am still here to tell the tale. They really only get scary when making rip cuts or using the shaper attachment without the guard, etc. I replaced it with a sliding compound miter saw. I don’t think one is more dangerous than the other. |
#2 posted 02-14-2021 06:05 AM |
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#3 posted 02-14-2021 10:35 AM |
Radial arm saws are not any more dangerous than a table saw, maybe in some respects safer re: moving wood over blade vs. moving blade over wood. My question is how big is this saw? I don’t know of any radial that would cost that much other than a huge industrial machine that is most likely too big for most shops and 3 phase. -- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!! |
#4 posted 02-14-2021 11:26 AM |
Crosscuttings are no different than a sliding miter saw. Bigger and heavier is better. Big industrial jobs are actually woodworking machines where a miter saw is not. Even the old Craftsman 12 inch was used by many cabinet shops. . I improved my 10 inch by reinforcing the base there the post bolted and supported the table with an aluminum plate. Kind of wish I still had it. |
#5 posted 02-14-2021 11:47 AM |
That sound like it might be Northfield Unipoint. If so, that’s my Mega Millions Lottery dream saw (off topic, the odds are vey low that I’ll win…I’ve never bought a lotery ticket). The RAS has an undeserved bad rap. I have an older Dewalt in my shop, the 5th or 6th RAS I’ve owned and my shop will not be without one. While I don’t see them as the only tool you need they are extremely useful. -- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress. |
#6 posted 02-14-2021 12:04 PM |
A 14 inch 3.5 HP single phase |
#7 posted 02-14-2021 12:05 PM |
Except you pull the blade towards you instead of pushing it away. Correct? |
#8 posted 02-14-2021 12:16 PM |
My first RAS was a Craftsman my dad bought new in 1974. I inherited it about 2000 or so. I tried ripping on it exactly once. Never again after that experience. I had the saw in service until 2015, when I turned it in under that Craftsman RAS recall. I quit using it because it wouldn’t hold adjustment, at all. I found a local guy selling a Delta Rockwell Super 990 Turret-style RAS; manufactured in 1962. Bought it for $75 and eventually rehabbed it. It’s in my shop today and ti does great. Rock solid and holds accurate settings. I, too, heard all the stuff about how dangerous the RAS can be. I’m not a fan for dadoes, moulding head cutters, and ripping; there’s other, easier, much safer ways to do those actions. But cross cuts and miters on wide boards are great. I think the old iron, turret style saw also looks cool, so there’s that “eye-candy” aspect to the saw as well. -- Ray |
#9 posted 02-14-2021 01:03 PM |
Absolutely! -- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress. |
#10 posted 02-14-2021 01:11 PM |
Yes I have two shapers and a moulding machine no need for a moulding head. Lol and I have a table saw so no need for ripping with one. Basically I would use it for cross cutting. A good heavy one in good shape would that stay true or as true as a sliding mitre saw? I have heard a bunch of story’s about them going out of alignment! Is that the case on a good one as well or is that a problem of the entry level ones? I find that on many entry level machine s that is the main reason for paying a bit more is to get machine s that stay in alignment. Regards Tom |
#11 posted 02-14-2021 01:12 PM |
Yes |
#12 posted 02-14-2021 01:18 PM |
So how do you hold the work piece? |
#13 posted 02-14-2021 01:41 PM |
There is actually no need to hold it since the blade is forcing it into the fence (crosscut), but I use my left hand to hold it in place while I pull the saw through the cut. If the piece is too small to hold safely with my hand I had a push stick I use to keep it secure while I cut it. There is a commercial version you can buy. I had one and sent it back, I like my shop made version better. The alignment stories you’ve read are almost certainly all related the Craftsman saw that were introduced as a “one tool does everything”. They were notorious for not holding zero, and I blame Sears/Craftsman for killing the category. I had 2 of them, and no amount of tuning would get them to the point of holding zero. Others, like the Dewalt (until the mid 60s or so), Delat/rockwell, and the commercial ones like the Unipoint are dead nuts accurate once they are tuned…though you may from time to time have to re-tune them. -- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress. |
#14 posted 02-14-2021 02:02 PM |
Ok I heard that as well that the blade pulled the workpiece into the fence. I was also told not to bend the elbow with the hand on the saw to move your body backwards never to bend your elbow. What do you think of that and why? Regards Tom |
#15 posted 02-14-2021 02:30 PM |
You need to select a blade that is not agressive. I switched to a Forrest Woodworker I on my 10” RAS and it made a world of difference. The prior blade wanted to run up over the wood and required extreme operator control (don’t bend the elbow, etc.). With the correct blade, you won’t have this problem. -- Jeffrey |
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