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02-10-2021 09:50 PM

I am eagerly waiting tax returns to buy my first Sawstop Contractors saw. I wish to buy it with the stock Stamped Steel wings but want to ad the Sawstop Cast iron Router Table. I wish to Replace the left hand stamped steel wing WITH the Router table. If you wish to order the Router table when buying your saw Saw Stop on SS site they make you buy an extras set of Cast iron Wings to the tune of over $700 extra.

I have looked and asked around IF I could do what I wish above I have gotten mixed responses….. Saw stop fanatically says NO! SS Says you have to bolt the router table onto added cast iron wings and NOT to the left edge of the saw top with the Stamped steel table removed…

I have watched many Videos of people putting their SS Contractors saws together and the holes you attached the Stamped steel wing to are exactly in the same spot where the holes are on/in the Router Table.

I have even seen videos of the exact same set up I wish to do on videos that are about other TOPICS so that set up was/is not discussed….

Any thought?


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#1 posted 02-10-2021 09:57 PM

My guess is the stamped sides aren’t necessarily “flat” and/or 90 to the top, whereas the cast iron are likely machined square. So when you attach it may not be coplaner with the top.

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#2 posted 02-10-2021 11:17 PM



My guess is the stamped sides aren’t necessarily “flat” and/or 90 to the top, whereas the cast iron are likely machined square. So when you attach it may not be coplaner with the top.

- SMP


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#3 posted 02-10-2021 11:18 PM

Call your local Woodcraft and ask to speak to someone who is knowledgeable about this. If you PM me I’ll email you contact info for the SS specialist at my Woodcraft.

-- Woodworking is like a vicious cycle. The more tools you buy the more you find to buy.

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#4 posted 02-11-2021 04:15 AM

So I bought a Saw Stop cast iron router wing off amazon. Got a better deal than what is listed today, But I have had it almost 2 years.
https://www.amazon.com/SawStop-RT-C27-Cast-Iron-Table/dp/B07FVDXTTD/ref=sr_1_1?crid=VZKG3U8P5B4U&dchild=1&keywords=sawstop+cast+iron+router+table+top&qid=1613015246&sprefix=Saw+stop+Cast+%2Caps%2C209&sr=8-1

And you can get a single Saw Stop branded wing from Grizzly for the other side too, and do away with the stamped steel wings all together. $135 for a single wing.
https://www.grizzly.com/products/sawstop-cast-iron-wing-assembly/t30437

So around $400 and you have both the router wing and the solid wing for the right side.

Looking at a photo of the Contractor Saw, I don’t see any reason why the wing would not work on the left side, directly attached to the saw. Except you lose the tool storage spots.
I have a Ridgid R4512, and my saw stop router wing is attached to the left of my saw. Now the motor on the Ridgid saw does stick out on the left side. I did measure before I bought my wing. But it did turn into a huge job for me. I don’t see anything on your saw to get into the way.
Also you point out the same bolt pattern. My ridgid came with a 3 hole pattern, where the cast wings are 4 bolt.
I just drilled the wing to match the saw. 3 bolt is working fine.
Goodluck,

-- John

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#5 posted 02-11-2021 04:22 AM

WOW Thanks for the advise. It is SAWSTOP that keeps telling me I have to buy 2 additional cast irons wings to use the router table wing Of course they want to sell stuff. I want MINE to be on the LEFT side as a replacement for the left side stamped wing because of my small shop setup. I too have a 4512 with a handmade Router wood table on the RIGHT on it and it is problematic at that location. If i had the add on iron wing on the left and the router table added on to that It would not fit in my shop.

Yea I saw the SS One on Amazon as well I would love to get SS Router lift to and MAN are they proud of it @$400


So I bought a Saw Stop cast iron router wing off amazon. Got a better deal than what is listed today, But I have had it almost 2 years.
https://www.amazon.com/SawStop-RT-C27-Cast-Iron-Table/dp/B07FVDXTTD/ref=sr_1_1?crid=VZKG3U8P5B4U&dchild=1&keywords=sawstop+cast+iron+router+table+top&qid=1613015246&sprefix=Saw+stop+Cast+%2Caps%2C209&sr=8-1

And you can get a single Saw Stop branded wing from Grizzly for the other side too, and do away with the stamped steel wings all together. $135 for a single wing.
https://www.grizzly.com/products/sawstop-cast-iron-wing-assembly/t30437

So around $400 and you have both the router wing and the solid wing for the right side.

Looking at a photo of the Contractor Saw, I don t see any reason why the wing would not work on the left side, directly attached to the saw. Except you lose the tool storage spots.
I have a Ridgid R4512, and my saw stop router wing is attached to the left of my saw. Now the motor on the Ridgid saw does stick out on the left side. I did measure before I bought my wing. But it did turn into a huge job for me. I don t see anything on your saw to get into the way.
Also you point out the same bolt pattern. My ridgid came with a 3 hole pattern, where the cast wings are 4 bolt.
I just drilled the wing to match the saw. 3 bolt is working fine.
Goodluck,

- bigJohninvegas


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#6 posted 02-11-2021 05:46 AM



WOW Thanks for the advise. It is SAWSTOP that keeps telling me I have to buy 2 additional cast irons wings to use the router table wing Of course they want to sell stuff. I want MINE to be on the LEFT side as a replacement for the left side stamped wing because of my small shop setup. I too have a 4512 with a handmade Router wood table on the RIGHT on it and it is problematic at that location. If i had the add on iron wing on the left and the router table added on to that It would not fit in my shop.

Yea I saw the SS One on Amazon as well I would love to get SS Router lift to and MAN are they proud of it @$400

- stevejack

with the Ridgid, as you know, the motor sticks out on the left.
I had to cut one of the fins out of the housing to get a wrench in to tighten the center bolt. Had to use socket bolts, and a ratchet wrench with an allen wrench cut off. Could not make a regular bolt work, and a regular allen wrench was to long. Was kinda of crazy job to make it work. And I hope I never take that wing back off. lol
But it works perfect o the left side.


My wood pecker lift just clears the motor housing.

The specs say the Saw Stop wing, and a Woodpeckers router lift are the same.
And maybe that was the problem, that they were too close. I had to take the lift to my 6” belt sander.
Basically sanded off the gold on one side, and it set right in.

Hope it all works out for you with the new Saw stop.
Good luck,

-- John

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#7 posted 02-11-2021 11:33 AM

I used my SawStop iron top ( just the top, not the kit) on my Ridgid and will be putting it on my Harvey. 27 inch. I made my own legs and already had a Rockler fence. Just had to drill a couple of holes. Bought mine through Amazon as I get free shipping.

Several companies sell their solid extension wings, but few list their width.

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#8 posted 02-11-2021 02:23 PM

I dont think a router lift should be 4 times the cost of a/the router! But thats just me

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Fred Hargis

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#9 posted 02-11-2021 02:43 PM

The title of your thread needs a different word I think; Sawstop Gives you EXPENSIVE WINGS. Some thing to tune of “blackmails you into”, or such.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#10 posted 10-27-2021 02:53 AM

I am looking into the exact same question as the original poster only I would probably want to mount the cast iron router table on the right side of the saw in place of the stamped steel wing. Just wondering if anyone has actually done this?

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#11 posted 10-27-2021 06:14 PM



I am looking into the exact same question as the original poster only I would probably want to mount the cast iron router table on the right side of the saw in place of the stamped steel wing. Just wondering if anyone has actually done this?

- tlougee


You can put the wing on the right side. But I think you need a cast wing in between the saw, and the router wing.
There are two issues I see with mounting the router wing directly to the right side of that saw.
1st is will the blade tilt hand wheel clear the router?
2nd is that the fence rails stick out past the wing. Makes a bit of a long reach.
So ideally you would want to add a plain cast iron wing, and then the router wing. If you do that it will work fine.
But then you must add legs. Saw will be tippy to that right side.

-- John

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#12 posted 10-27-2021 07:20 PM

Not sure about the Sawstop but I have a cast iron router wing on the right side of my contractor saw and no problem with clearance between the tilt wheel and the router.

-- Darrel

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#13 posted 10-27-2021 07:48 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys! Another option I have started kicking around is using the table top of my Bosh Router table in place of a wing or attached to a cast iron wing as it has the right dimensions. It is a project I was planning to do on my old Rigid TS-3650 which I have seen others do online but it might also work on the SS CNS. Another complication to adding a router table to the saw is I need to have a mobile base in my small shop. SS limits the integrated router table options they offer depending upon if you are using a mobile base and on the PCS which mobile base you use which makes sense.

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