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Francisco Luna

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02-06-2021 08:46 PM

Topic tags/keywords: saw sharpening resource question sharpening hand tools

I was about to shot for a $140 Lie Nielsen Dovetail saw, but then I was thinking I should try to learn about saw sharpening and construction (Im completely illiterate about it), and try to tune up my old saw and why not, build a new one. I found these guys from TGIAG Toolworks that actually sell all the supplies, plus they have a nice library with many handle templates from different manufacturers. I have been using Ryobas and Dozukis, but they can’t be resharpened, and blades are getting pricy.

Where should I start looking for videos or tutorials about Saw sharpening?

-- "Menos es mas" Ludwing Mies Van Der Rohe


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fritzer1210

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#1 posted 02-06-2021 08:55 PM

Paul Sellers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA5DixEaaUo

There are others too

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#2 posted 02-06-2021 08:56 PM

Start with LJ Brit’s video

https://www.lumberjocks.com/Brit/blog/36332

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SMP

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#3 posted 02-06-2021 09:44 PM

My favorite place for this stuff is Blackburn Tools. He makes and sells all the parts, has all different size handle templates to fit your hand and how to size, and the most complete guide to saw sharpening I have found. If you buy a plate from him you can have him sharpen it and it will cut your eyeballs if you look at it.
https://www.blackburntools.com/

As for where to get the files, i usually get from Tools For Working wood:
https://toolsforworkingwood.com/store/item/CO-SAWFILE.XX/Saw+Files+by+Corradi

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Andre

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#4 posted 02-06-2021 11:52 PM



Start with LJ Brit s video

https://www.lumberjocks.com/Brit/blog/36332

- Johnny7

I second Brits video, a wee long winded but kinda humorous, I ended up building a saw vise fashioned after his, which helped considerable as with buying the saw holder from Lee Valley (and files)

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#5 posted 02-07-2021 12:25 AM

Pretty cool. You can buy Japanese saws that don’t have the induction hardened teeth that can be sharpened, but they are very expensive. I have one of the Japanese, knife edged files for this but have no expensive Japanese saws. The file works great for starting the string slots on bone guitar nuts.

-- Darrel

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#6 posted 02-07-2021 01:37 AM



Start with LJ Brit s video

https://www.lumberjocks.com/Brit/blog/36332

- Johnny7

Absolutely start here

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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therealSteveN

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#7 posted 02-07-2021 04:37 AM

Sadly Dominic, and Mike of TGIAG Toolworks aren’t taking new business due to health concerns. Dom was my go to guy for card scrapers, blades, and sawnuts.

I can second TFWW Joel is an Ace, and Blackburn as good sources too.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#8 posted 02-07-2021 02:56 PM

I went down the road of buying a LN dovetail saw first, and while I wouldn’t say I regretted it, I did end up selling it within a year, and replacing it with a vintage Jackson saw I cleaned and sharpened (my first one, and I don’t claim that the sharpening was “good”). I still have that saw, and just recently replaced it as my primary/only dovetail saw this past fall, with one that I finally finished making, after 8 good years of service. Learning to sharpen is far more important than the name on the saw, as you will be sharpening your saw to keep it usable, or you’ll constantly be using an insert performing saw, or waiting to get it back after sending it to get sharpened. Sharp fixes a lot more than being brand new.

Brit’s video is far and away the best I found.

A note, Isaac at Blackburn is a good dude, but expect your order to take 2-3 months right now.

I also preferred TGIAG hardware, but as other have said, not currently taking orders unfortunately. I also liked that they offered folded backs as well.

I ended up finding a Foley Retoother so I can make my own plates to my liking without filling the new teeth in from scratch, but the hardware is something still beyond my capacity at the moment.

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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Badgerstate

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#9 posted 02-07-2021 05:59 PM

Ive got a small file set that I bought at Lowes thats perfect for saw sharpening. Its really not all that difficult and theres plenty of videos on Youtube that show you how to do it.

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Andre

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#10 posted 02-07-2021 07:31 PM



Ive got a small file set that I bought at Lowes thats perfect for saw sharpening. Its really not all that difficult and theres plenty of videos on Youtube that show you how to do it.

- Badgerstate

I have heard that, watch a youtube video and you become an expert LOL!

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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AdmiralRich

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#11 posted 02-08-2021 07:18 PM

Read and understand this: http://www.vintagesaws.com/library/primer/sharp.html

-- Elvem ipsum etiam vivere

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Francisco Luna

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#12 posted 02-09-2021 09:43 AM

Great Information from all of you as always!

-- "Menos es mas" Ludwing Mies Van Der Rohe

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SMP

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#13 posted 02-09-2021 02:36 PM



Great Information from all of you as always!

- Francisco Luna

Btw, don’t get overwhelmed when looking at the documents and videos. For a dovetail saw you only need to worry about the “rip” sections, which is the easier part. Once you get that down, and have all the tools, then you can practice crosscut on an old panel saw or something(btw, i sometimes find old panel saws at Habitat for Humanity ReStore for $2-3. In terrible shape, which = perfect for sharpening practice)

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