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02-06-2021 12:47 AM

Topic tags/keywords: craftsman 152 vega fence wing extension upgrade 152221040 tablesaw table saw

I have a Craftsman 152.221040 that has the stamped steel wings. I just got a Vega fence (haven’t even unboxed it yet), and before I take everything apart I wanted to know what people have done about mounting the wings. Currently they’re bolted on three sides—to the cast iron table and to the front and back fence rails.

When I searched this topic, most of the responses looked to be about 113 series saws, and it looks like the wings only mount to the table on those anyway (but I could be wrong).

Has anyone already made this upgrade on a Craftsman 152 and solved this issue?


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#1 posted 02-06-2021 12:59 AM

I have a craftsman 152 with cast iron wings. Not sure that’s of any help to you, but if it is let me know what I can do.

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#2 posted 02-06-2021 01:03 AM

Thanks Scallywags. I’ve actually also been curious about trying to find some cast iron wings. I’ve seen the cut-out cast iron wings for the 113 models, but I wasn’t sure if Craftsman ever offered solid cast iron wings. Is that what yours are?


I have a craftsman 152 with cast iron wings. Not sure that s of any help to you, but if it is let me know what I can do.

- Scallywags


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#3 posted 02-06-2021 01:04 AM

Just fnished the restoration this weekend. It was rough when I got it. Parts were very limited in my hunt, idk where you would even find the wings? Fortunately the Biese fence was relatively universal.

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#4 posted 02-06-2021 02:03 AM

Wow, you did a great job with that restoration! If I’m seeing the pics correctly, is there a sort of structural rail that runs across the front that the wings are bolted to (not the fence rail)? Surely those wings aren’t just bolted to the table top and then just hanging out in space? I’m wondering if I just need to get some like 1/8” steel bar to put across the front and back for the wings to attach to, and then attach the Vega rail to that.

Just fnished the restoration this weekend. It was rough when I got it. Parts were very limited in my hunt, idk where you would even find the wings? Fortunately the Biese fence was relatively universal.

- Scallywags


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#5 posted 02-06-2021 07:49 PM

They are only bolted to the tabletop (at first). And don’t call me Shirley (hopefully you get that reference).

But they do wind up being bolted to the angle iron pieces of the fence rail which is a big part of the support structure. It’s in the manual that while installing the fence you adjust the wings to make sure they’re flat before snugging up all the bolts.

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#6 posted 02-06-2021 08:04 PM

Hey, does your saw have this outfeed table in back? I’m missing one of the two support pieces that holds it up which I can probably replicate with some metal and a grinder but I need dimensions…

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#7 posted 02-07-2021 11:36 PM

HAHA classic!

I see what you mean with how they’re connected. I’ve taken mine apart now, and the first thing I did was see how stiff the wings were when I took the rails off, and they were surprisingly rigid. They still need some kind of anchor on a second axis to ensure they’re flat to the table, but still I was kind of impressed.

At this point I’m thinking that as I put it together, if nothing occurs to me about how to connect the wings on a second (and hopefully third) side, I’ll attach a separate support bar across the front/back.

That outfeed table is cool…I’ve never seen that (which answers your question—no I don’t have one!). After I get this fence attached my next shop infrastructure project is a folding outfeed table just like that, only wood!

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#8 posted 02-09-2021 04:39 AM

So glad you got that! Ok well if you need any more photos gimme a holler!

-- You can trust me, I have a festool sander and a woodpecker ruler.

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#9 posted 02-11-2021 01:02 AM

I’ve taken apart my saw and I do actually have a question for you. since you have the pro-level model.

I don’t know the part name, but there are these two big rods that connect the motor mount to the front and rear tilt guides. I have a picture below—on each rod there are two machined depressions on opposite sides, and also two bands near the ends of the rods that are very slightly narrower (in the picture below, they are the bands with more rust). Nothing about the motor interacts with these locations when everything is assembled, so I wondered if there might be a feature on the higher end models of this saw that use the same internal components.


So glad you got that! Ok well if you need any more photos gimme a holler!

- Scallywags


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#10 posted 02-11-2021 03:32 AM


Wow, you did a great job with that restoration! If I m seeing the pics correctly, is there a sort of structural rail that runs across the front that the wings are bolted to (not the fence rail)? Surely those wings aren t just bolted to the table top and then just hanging out in space? I m wondering if I just need to get some like 1/8” steel bar to put across the front and back for the wings to attach to, and then attach the Vega rail to that.

- Scallywags

- Burgoo

So a Biesemeyer style fence has a full length angle iron on both front and back of the saw. And the tube the fence rides on is attached to the front angle iron.
I had never paid attention to the Vega fence before. And looking at photos of that fence I see that it only uses two hangers in the front. And a square tube in the back.
There are a lot of photos here on Rocklers web site showing the fence used with all sorts of wings. From Stamped steel to the old open craftsman style to full cast iron. No support on the wings in the front.
https://www.rockler.com/table-saw-fence-systems?country=US&sid=V91041&promo=shopping&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=PL&tid=pla&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=(ROI)_Shopping_-_All_Products&msclkid=d949328737fe19146d3a52a3a8039504

That would worry me. Any weight set out on the wings would cause flex in stamped steel for sure. and could cause a full cast wing to sag I think for sure.
I would be tempted to see if I could adapt a piece of angle to the front, behind the two hangers that come with the Vega fence. Maybe turn the angle in towards the saw, or a piece of strap steel to give the wings support.

I have a Ridgid saw that came with stamped steel wings. You will notice that most saws with stamped wings have 3 holes tapped into the cast iron saw top. while saws that come with cast iron wings have 4 holes tapped into the top. so when I upgraded to cast wings, I had to drill the wings to accept a 3 hole pattern. I was ok with it, because the Biesemeyer fence I am using has 4 more bolts in each wing. 2 front, and 2 in the back. So plenty of support there.

-- John

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#11 posted 02-12-2021 12:37 AM


So a Biesemeyer style fence has a full length angle iron on both front and back of the saw. And the tube the fence rides on is attached to the front angle iron.

- bigJohninvegas

Ya know what’s funny is it actually is NOT a full length angle iron in the back. Kinda odd since it has a hole drilled for one in the cast iron table, but the angle iron doesn’t go all the to the end. I would think this was in error, but this is the only way the holes line up. I had a small panic attack when I couldn’t get the holes lined up across all three pieces of the table. I thought the iron was from another saw or something like the splitter I received (for a Cman 113 model). But nope, it just doesn’t go. Maybe they hole is in the cast iron so when assembling it can go on either side?

not my saw, but lots of photos
https://mowryjournal.com/2018/05/07/from-the-shop-replacing-a-table-saw-motor-craftsman-152-221240/

-- You can trust me, I have a festool sander and a woodpecker ruler.

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#12 posted 02-12-2021 12:54 AM



I ve taken apart my saw and I do actually have a question for you. since you have the pro-level model.

I don t know the part name, but there are these two big rods that connect the motor mount to the front and rear tilt guides. I have a picture below—on each rod there are two machined depressions on opposite sides, and also two bands near the ends of the rods that are very slightly narrower (in the picture below, they are the bands with more rust). Nothing about the motor interacts with these locations when everything is assembled, so I wondered if there might be a feature on the higher end models of this saw that use the same internal components.

So glad you got that! Ok well if you need any more photos gimme a holler!

- Scallywags

- Burgoo

That is the trunnion. I can get in there and take some photos, but it might be worth looking at the exploded diagram to see if that answers your questions before I can pop my head under the hood… I find the official Sears one to be the most accurate (over ereplacementparts.com, etc.)

https://www.searspartsdirect.com/model/2fpgb9zy76-000247/craftsman-152221240-table-saw-parts

-- You can trust me, I have a festool sander and a woodpecker ruler.

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#13 posted 03-06-2021 08:52 PM

totally forgot about this, you still need me to take a look?

-- You can trust me, I have a festool sander and a woodpecker ruler.

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