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GhostTheHusky

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01-21-2021 02:46 PM

I was toying with the idea of being super ambitious, and trying to create my own wooden car. The ideal situation would to be to buy a salvaged car to use the frame, and existing chassis.

I am not too concerned with being able to create pieces of a car from wood, more so protecting the car from heat from the engine / exhaust. There have been wooden cars that have been built in the past (ex. supercar splinter), but I have not seen any answers to these issues, or would it not be an issue? Forget about the wood heating, and igniting (which is definitely a concern) but wouldn’t the heat also melt any glue used to hold pieces together?

This is extremely early on into any sort of project, but I am definitely looking for answers before I start planning anything. Thanks guys!

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Meisterburger

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#1 posted 01-21-2021 03:01 PM

Go with the hot rod look. Open engine bay with short exhaust headers

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GhostTheHusky

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#2 posted 01-21-2021 03:09 PM

I was thinking that at first, but at the end of the day that’s not really my style, and I wouldn’t be really happy with it, nor really motivated to work on it.

Would there be something I could laminate on the inside of the wooden panels to help insulate and protect it from the heat?

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#3 posted 01-21-2021 05:32 PM

A car with wood near engine or exhaust was the Morgan. It had an Oak frame. My old exhaust catalog shows the exhaust hung by hangers like most metal framed cars. Do not know how the engine and transmission was attached to the frame. Engine mounts? Best I can answer. Would love to see your progress and result. The following is on youtube and seems to be what you are striving to do. Another youtube video on the car at a auto show exists also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofDAeGxO9Tc

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GhostTheHusky

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#4 posted 01-21-2021 05:44 PM

Yeah that’s one of the cars I saw, I mentioned it earlier too. That is similar for what I am going for. From what I have heard about the car they redesigned the engine and exhaust to allow the heat to get out faster, but to my knowledge, they really didn’t drive the car to really see how it would hold up / hot engine. He even mentioned glue coming undone.

I completely forgot about the Morgan, I am going to research more into that as well. I guess what I was trying to find out was if I made a wooden body, if there was something I can do underneath to create almost a protective layer for it.

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#5 posted 01-21-2021 06:16 PM

The first thing that springs to mind is spray type ceramic insulation. Not sure how viable that is as I’ve never seen it used on a wooden car. http://eaglecoatings.com/products/thermal/ Ceramic fiber or mineral wool might be an option but you wouldn’t want to go driving in the rain. There are also gasket materials used in industry that are very heat resistant and flexible that you might consider.

-- Darrel

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GhostTheHusky

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#6 posted 01-21-2021 07:07 PM

Definitely going to look into that as well. I was also trying to think of a way to almost create an insulation layer, for the engine bay, and the exhaust. Exterior would be wood, and attached could be a layer of insulation and a sheet of metal on the inside? I don’t know if that could work, just trying to throw ideas out there

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#7 posted 01-21-2021 07:13 PM

Had you seen this one:
https://www.facebook.com/IamYourDriver.Damak.Hedi/posts/1691410194353974

He says he just used insulation between the hood and the motor.

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987Ron

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#8 posted 01-21-2021 07:27 PM

Another thought on insulation: Most cars have insulation on the panel (firewall) between the engine compartment and the passenger compartment. Heat, fire and noise reduction. Remember some to be sheet type material and others looked sprayed on. Body shop might be a source of information on this.
Interesting project.

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#9 posted 01-21-2021 07:37 PM

Been done quite a few times. Tends to be very heavy. Then again, there are the hybrids like the Marcos that was half plywood and half fiberglass. Basically wood cars are “art”, not cars.

Now the “proper” use of wood is the body frame. You can still buy a new Morgan with an ash frame, plywood floor and firewall. ( no insulation, black paint) Skin is steel and of course a steel chassis. Hard to beat a ‘30’s Woody wagon. or even going back to Model T truck bodies. Morgan actually tested an all aluminum body vs a wood frame body for the Aero, and the wood frame performed better in crash testing.

There are lots of heat and insulation products. You should be looking on ld car forums, not cabinet makers. My hobby actually is old British sports cars, so I have some crossover knowledge.

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