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Forum topic by Eladadh posted 01-19-2021 02:12 PM 495 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Eladadh

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01-19-2021 02:12 PM

Topic tags/keywords: rockwell delta table saw

Hey everyone, just checking to see if anyone has any info on this stamp on the tabletop of an older Rockwell, 12” contractor saw I recently acquired. I wasn’t able to find out much with basic Google searches (other than a Netflix special with the same name, lol). I know Rockwell/Delta has had an interesting past and I’m just curious if there’s an additional story to this saw’s manufacturing past.

For instance, if it refers to the area in Berlin, then at the time the saw was made, (late 70s), that town would have been just behind the Iron Curtain in the Russian-controlled, East Berlin area.

Thanks in advance


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#1 posted 01-20-2021 01:29 AM

Hmm, love a good hunt…

According to wiki “Weissensee” : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei%C3%9Fensee
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Places

Weissensee (Berlin), a district of Berlin
Weißensee, Thuringia, a town in Thuringia, Germany
Weissensee, Austria, a municipality in Carinthia, Austria
Weissensee (Carinthia), a lake in Carinthia, Austria
Weißensee (Füssen), a lake in Allgäu, Bavaria, Germany

People

Friedrich Weissensee (c.1560–1622), German composer and Protestant minister

Other
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Weissensee, a song by Neu! from their eponymous first album
Weissensee, a song by Elder_(band) from their 2019 album The Gold & Silver Sessions
Weissensee (TV series), a German television series

Doubt a Composer or TV series would buy a saw and stamp ownership on it?

Where was saw found? Germany, or Austria?

Was it found near a lake? “Weißer See” translates into “White Lake”

One common reason a tool would get a metal stamp was when purchased by company or city/town wood shop. The letters/number would be capital tracking tag used for tax/property purposes.

Could have originally been purchased to rebuild Weissensee area of Berlin by city government?

There is company named Weissensee that specializes in Holz (Holz = wood) building components. They been around since 1930’s? Did the tool come via a factory they owned at one time?
https://www.weissenseer.com/en/

The Weissensee area of Austria has plethora of nearby winter sports like skiing. Maybe a company in that town used the saw?

Lots of possibilities. My German sucks, so hard to hunt further.
Might look for Holz related Herstellung (mfg) near Weißensee, and see if you can other potential previous owners of saw.
Would also look for any Delta tool distributors in Weißensee areas of Germany & Austria that might have been around in 70’s?

PS – OWWM forums have some members located in EU. Would post your question over there too.

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#2 posted 01-20-2021 01:39 AM

I think I read of Delta production or distribution in Africa once. The African machines were a little different in minor details. Some guy in S.A. or some other country was collecting and restoring them.

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#3 posted 01-20-2021 02:49 AM

You sure that’s not somebody’s name and driver license number?

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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#4 posted 01-20-2021 03:21 AM

Thanks for he quick replies. Unfortunately I can’t say the saw was found anywhere foreign—I picked it up here in Northern California, USA. I’ll try to get a hold of the previous owner and see if he has any additional info. I’ve also sent an email to the company linked above just in case.

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#5 posted 01-20-2021 03:25 AM

Oh Ocelot, another good suggestion although I’d say that it’s 1 digit short for a CA driver’s license number.

Maybe a contractor’s license number though?

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#6 posted 01-20-2021 03:40 AM

American service people sometimes ship machinery to where they’re being stationed. I’ve seen it mentioned several times. That was my first guess actually but it does seem far out. A 50HZ motor would be a giveaway the saw lived in Europe.

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#7 posted 01-20-2021 03:46 AM

It literally translates to White Lake in German. Could be a place, name or even a business or school. Kind of like a German guy finding a saw with “Bayfront “ stamped into it.

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#8 posted 01-20-2021 04:10 AM



American service people sometimes ship machinery to where they re being stationed. I ve seen it mentioned several times. That was my first guess actually but it does seem far out. A 50HZ motor would be a giveaway the saw lived in Europe.

- Loren

That’s pretty cool as an option as well. 60Hz, 2hp Dayton motor came with it.

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#9 posted 01-20-2021 05:12 AM

There is an “art” school in Weissensee called the Kunsthochschule, which is literally translates to Art-high-school, but means more like Art College. They do have some programs that may have needed a saw, like stage decorations and sculpture etc. Or maybe they did some art pieces using wood. That would be my best guess, then when it was brought here someone slapped on that motor.

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