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LedRat

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01-19-2021 02:03 PM

I’m planning on building some African padauk end tables and a TV console for my living room and I’m not sure what finish would be best. I prefer a natural wood feel and look, but need some protection from people setting drinks and food on the tables as well. I understand padauk’s color changes over time, but I’d like to preserve the color as much as possible.

I’m also considering using padauk for the lower structure and zebra wood for the tops (based on a box I made, and I really dug the look).

Poly may work well, but it’s ugly and therefore out of the discussion. But given the world of other options out there, what might you suggest?

Thanks in advance!


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Sycamoray

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#1 posted 01-26-2021 08:48 PM

Yes, poly is ugly. All the thick finishes which will provide meaningful protection from condensation, food, and UV light are layers of plastic which look ugly to some people. They sure look ugly to me.

Sorry, I have no real wisdom to share. I have simply accepted the choice between an ugly finish and wood that changes as it ages.

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#2 posted 01-26-2021 08:50 PM

Minwax Antique Oil applied via increasingly fine wet sanding has been the best tradeoff of looks vs protection that I have found.

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them700project

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#3 posted 01-26-2021 08:51 PM

Padauk takes osmo pretty well for me

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#4 posted 01-26-2021 09:55 PM

yeah sadly padauk will turn brown in time,the less light the better.i use oil finishes on pretty much all my work because i like the feel of the wood,but in doesn’t give the best protection against moisture from drinks.i did just try out rubio monocoat which is supposed to get complete protection in one coat,but it has a kind of dull flat look but does retain the natural look and feel of the wood.look up charles neils video’s he was a member here that passed last year but was a guru of finishing knowledge and made many tutorials on it.

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#5 posted 01-26-2021 09:57 PM



Padauk takes osmo pretty well for me

- them700project

Just looking up Osmo as I’m not familiar with them. But I see they make a variety of products, including a hard wax oil that sounds interesting. Is this what you use?

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#6 posted 01-26-2021 10:30 PM

LedRat

Your post..
I’m planning on building some African padauk end tables and a TV console for my living room and I’m not sure what finish would be best. I prefer a natural wood feel and look, but need some protection from people setting drinks and food on the tables as well. I understand padauk’s color changes over time, but I’d like to preserve the color as much as possible.

Rubio Mono coat leaves a wood feel and look, and protects from people setting drinks down on them. I have just tried it and that is exactly what it is for. I am not sure about protecting color.

This blood wood should get brown but will take time to be sure.

-- Petey

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#7 posted 01-26-2021 10:47 PM

Not to put a damper on your project ideas, but be aware that if you are going to keep anything on the table top for long periods of time, the exposed part will turn brown while the covered part will stay red. Might look strange down the line.

Is there a UV inhibitor available that can be added to a finish?

Also, would a product meant for finishing wood on boats be worth a try since they are blasted with UV rays nonstop?

-- I love the smell of sawdust in the morning.

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splintergroup

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#8 posted 01-26-2021 10:56 PM

I’d offer up the “spar varnish” idea as well. “Real” stuff, not the Helmsman or other hardware store stuff. I like Epifanes but you need to thin it about 25%.

Two of the biggest sources that change the colors of wood are UV light exposure and oxidation.

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#9 posted 01-26-2021 10:58 PM

Color/UV protection + food/water/alcohol protection + NO thick film finish? == IMHO definition of OXYMORON

https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/preventing-color-changes-in-exotic-woods/

What ever you use needs to have high levels of UV protection, and color will still change over time.
Will find least amount of UV protection from a simple oil, or oil/wax finish.
To met your stated goals I would use: 2k conversion varnish, oil based polyurethane, or one of newer WB polyurethane coatings that offers UV protection.

Finishing large furniture projects is usually best via spraying, so might as well contact you local industrial wood coatings distributor and ask them what they carry that will met your needs. There are too many mfg/brands with similar materials to list all the options available. Look for Renner, Gemini, Ml Campbell, or Axalta; in your area.

One of the toughest WB products that doesn’t need thick film for protection I have used is Renner 851 2K catalyzed acrylic urethane. This stuff is so tough after curing; you need to use silicon carbide or ceramic sand paper for any major removal. Garnet sand paper barely scratches the surface. One coat or about 2 mils is enough protection for kitchen cabinets, and looks ‘barely there’, similar to 1 coat of lacquer. Have not tested amount of UV protection, so YMMV.

Best Luck!

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LedRat

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#10 posted 01-27-2021 02:13 AM

Lots of food for thought here. I may rethink this whole padauk theme and just stain up something cheap and easy.

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#11 posted 01-27-2021 02:15 AM



Rubio Mono coat leaves a wood feel and look, and protects from people setting drinks down on them. I have just tried it and that is exactly what it is for. I am not sure about protecting color.

This blood wood should get brown but will take time to be sure.

- Peteybadboy


Nice tables!

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#12 posted 01-27-2021 08:27 PM

As others have suggested, to preserve the wood color, the use of an exterior grade finish which has UV absorbers is best. Epifane brand is considered one of the best, but any exterior grade finish provides some UV protection. But realize these will only slow the color change down, not prevent it. If the piece gets any direct sunlight through window, it will be hopeless.

Because of this issue with paduak changing color, I now use mahogany that I dye with water base dye, followed by oil based stain, to simulate padauk. The advantage is that it is MUCH more color-fast (not too mention also much less expensive). I’ve attached a picture that compares Padauk to dyed African mahogany:

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#13 posted 01-27-2021 08:40 PM



As others have suggested, to preserve the wood color, the use of an exterior grade finish which has UV absorbers is best. Epifane brand is considered one of the best, but any exterior grade finish provides some UV protection. But realize these will only slow the color change down, not prevent it. If the piece gets any direct sunlight through window, it will be hopeless.

Because of this issue with paduak changing color, I now use mahogany that I dye with water base dye, followed by oil based stain, to simulate padauk. The advantage is that it is MUCH more color-fast (not too mention also much less expensive). I ve attached a picture that compares Padauk to dyed African mahogany:

- Jeff Vicenzi


man thats a pretty good match,food for thought.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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LedRat

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#14 posted 01-27-2021 09:21 PM



- Jeff Vicenzi


Oh, I like that! Good idea. Thanks.

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splintergroup

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#15 posted 01-27-2021 09:33 PM

Excellent solution!

Just be careful which dye you choose as many are also sensitive to fading under UV exposure (but they typically won’t shift to brown 8^)

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