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01-12-2021 05:23 PM |
I had a question about table saw blade burning. Most everything I have read says it is usually because you feed the wood too slowly. I purchased a new Forest Woodworker II blade. If I feed pine faster than it should be – it does not burn. Everything else does-(walnut, cherry, maple, purpleheart, etc). I cant feed it thru any faster and be safe or accurate. Any ideas on possible causes ? We have a 1951 Delta Unisaw. Does the motor just not have enough power to cut thru hardwoods? Any help/ideas appreciated |
19 replies so far
#1 posted 01-12-2021 05:28 PM |
Sounds like you’re having trouble with hardwoods. My guess is that you are underpowered. Also, make sure your saw blade is aligned correctly. -- Dave |
#2 posted 01-12-2021 05:57 PM |
ok thank you – blade brand new out the box -actually tried 2 now – used miter gauges/pin gauge/electronic slot gauge/squares/etc to align blade to top of table and fence. Sitting at perfect 90 to top and fence |
#3 posted 01-12-2021 06:02 PM |
Cherry tends to burn no matter what. One option if underpowered is try a thin kerf blade |
#4 posted 01-12-2021 06:17 PM |
Which specific Forest blade did you get…what thickness, number of teeth, designed for (?)...cross cut. rip cut, or multipurpose. A quick look showed about 10 different blades in the WoodWorker II category. If you got a cross cut blade and are trying to rip with it it will burn. The combination blade would be OK if you have a strong enough motor. As mentioned by Dave a thinner blade might help because it is removing less wood and therefore needs less power. A thinner blade can distort a little under pressure but it not normally a problem. -- Les B, Oregon |
#5 posted 01-12-2021 06:25 PM |
I had that same issue and I switched to a thin kerf rip blade. That made a big difference in eliminating burning. -- A bad day woodworking is still better than a good day working. |
#6 posted 01-12-2021 06:25 PM |
original blade tried was the Woodworker II Thin kerf 3/32”- 40 teeth (table saw-rip and crosscut). Also tried with and without stabilizers – 1 on each side of blade, 1 on both side of blade. Also tried same blade, regular kerf. 1951 Unisaw comes with a 1hp motor. maybe replace motor with a Leeson 2 or 3hp version ? Or as suggested by fivecodys – just switch to dedicated rip blade |
#7 posted 01-12-2021 06:49 PM |
a 51’ motor has probably lost some of its ponies along the way. Concur on a dedicated rip blade , specially in this situation. You don’t mention the thickness of the wood you’re cutting (or I missed it). 1 hp or less is gonna struggle in 8/4 or thicker especially with 40 teeth. |
#8 posted 01-12-2021 07:28 PM |
usually only 3/4 ” thick – was cutting down boards for christmas presents, bed frames, cabinet face frames, etc |
#9 posted 01-12-2021 08:13 PM |
Are your teeth clean on the sides? I find pine can really lay the pitch onto the blade which lies in wait until something harder comes by. |
#10 posted 01-12-2021 08:34 PM |
+1 Try another blade? How high above your wood is blade height set? What kind of motor do you have? The older 1HP RI has same peak torque as 2.5HP induction motor, just like a 2.5HP router that only has motor with 1HP electrical rating. Properly maintained these motors are a beast. But they do require periodic maintenance. Have you checked the brushes lately? Does the saw make any loud noises, meaning the arbor or motor bearings need replaced. Unisaw makes a very quiet whine when turned on, are easy to talk over, and they are never loud; unless bearings/belts need replacement. Your previous posts are leaving out details to show everything is set up properly, 1) Set blade 90° to table top with digital angle gauge. 2) Align blade to miter slot. 3) Align fence to miter slot. 4) Make a test cut: Where is the wood burning: middle of cut or back edge of cut? IMHO – Even with prefect alignment, with only 1HP TS, need use the right blade for each cut; and preferably thin kerf blades. Rip blade for ripping, cross cut blade for cross cut, and plywood blade for man made materials. Don’t forget often need different TPI for different wood thickness to achieve best edge quality. Best Luck. -- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967 |
#11 posted 01-12-2021 10:24 PM |
I was watching a YouTube this morning on Forest Blades taken at a woodcraft and the Forest rep was saying after a safety disclaimer. A blade raised well above the work will run X number of degrees cooler. Overall it was a good video for blade selection and height. Found it |
#12 posted 01-12-2021 11:32 PM |
If there is a saw that screams use a dedicated rip blade, it’s a one HP Uni. Blade will be best if it’s plenty sharp too, and Bruce made a killer point about it being clean of pitch if you are sawing borg wood. -- Think safe, be safe |
#13 posted 01-13-2021 12:24 AM |
A 7 1/4” Diablo thin kerf (.060”) with a splitter inset into your zero clearance insert may help as long as your hard wood is 4/4 or thinner. It’s worked very well for me for many years on a 2 HP contractor saw. Slower RPMs, but easier on your 1 HP motor and cheap too. Or replace the motor! -- Darrel |
#14 posted 01-13-2021 12:55 AM |
I use a 7.25 40t dewalt blade with excellent results. Even with burn prone woods. The downside is they don’t last very long, sharpness wise. I have tried a ton of different 7.25” blades. Haven’t found anything better than the dewalt for the price. |
#15 posted 01-13-2021 01:32 AM |
Haven’t tried the Dewalt but the Diablos seem to retain their sharpness as well as any other carbide blades I have although I’m definitely not producing things beyond a hobbiest volume. -- Darrel |
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