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Forum topic by Zvonko posted 12-16-2020 07:10 PM 1158 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-16-2020 07:10 PM

A few months ago, I bought this help me get more accurate angle cuts. I’ve used it for, what I think are called, bevel cuts with no problem. However, if I try to measure angle of saw when setting up for a miter cut, it just displays “Error” on screen.

Reading some more, it looks like it only works for bevel angles and that there are separate Angle gauges for measuring Miter cuts.

Am I missing something or is this actually true? If so, are there any digital tools that I can use for both?

Just in case I’m using the wrong terminology, I made this pic to illustrate what I’m talking about.

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#1 posted 12-16-2020 07:26 PM

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#2 posted 12-16-2020 07:40 PM

To elaborate on what Loren said: because the device uses gravity to measure bevel angle, it tells you the angle relative to straight up and down; relative to the earth. It will not tell you the angle of the blade relative to the table top unless your table top is perfectly level. So, if your table saw is setting on a floor that is not level, it is likely that your table top is not level and you won’t get an accurate reading from this device.

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#3 posted 12-16-2020 07:46 PM

Are you talking miter saw or table
Saw?

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#4 posted 12-16-2020 07:49 PM

Bilyo,
You can zero them on the top of your tablesaw and get a relative angle. While that won’t help Zvonko or anyone else using a miter saw, it does mean that the tablesaw doesn’t have to be level to use the cubes.


To elaborate on what Loren said: because the device uses gravity to measure bevel angle, it tells you the angle relative to straight up and down; relative to the earth. It will not tell you the angle of the blade relative to the table top unless your table top is perfectly level. So, if your table saw is setting on a floor that is not level, it is likely that your table top is not level and you won t get an accurate reading from this device.

- bilyo


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#5 posted 12-16-2020 07:52 PM

I place angle cube on table saw top and zero it. Place miter gauge with fence on the table top and miter bar hanging down off edge. Stick the angle cube on the side of the miter bar and it will measure the angle between miter gauge fence and miter bar.

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#6 posted 12-16-2020 08:50 PM



I place angle cube on table saw top and zero it. Place miter gauge with fence on the table top and miter bar hanging down off edge. Stick the angle cube on the side of the miter bar and it will measure the angle between miter gauge fence and miter bar.

- hotbyte

ok. there you go Zvonko. There’s a way to do it.

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#7 posted 12-16-2020 11:28 PM

I stand corrected. Thanks.

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#8 posted 12-17-2020 12:33 AM

I usually just use this bevel gauge….

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#9 posted 12-17-2020 12:40 AM

Angles and curves are the bane of wood working. Trail and error, for me have been the common solution. I’m in the process of making a picture frame with a table edge face. What a PITA. hopefully tomorrow I can solve the tear out problem.

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#10 posted 12-17-2020 12:42 AM



Angles and curves are the bane of wood working. Trail and error, for me have been the common solution. I m in the process of making a picture frame with a table edge face. What a PITA. hopefully tomorrow I can solve the tear out problem.

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#11 posted 12-17-2020 03:20 AM

Everyone knows you need one for the left side and one for the right. :)

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#12 posted 12-17-2020 03:49 AM

Or just buy a decent miter gauge.

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#13 posted 12-17-2020 04:45 AM

Thank you for bringing up an issue that makes me grind my teeth each time it is mentioned in this forum. I’m talking about so-called angle cuts. Jocks: there ain’t no such animal as an angle cut. It’s either a bevel or a miter, and sometimes a combination or compound angle. Otherwise, when someone complains that he (or she) is having trouble with angle cuts, I just think “What the hell is this person talking about?” Then I read further in hopes of clarification, which may or may not come.

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#14 posted 12-17-2020 04:58 AM



Thank you for bringing up an issue that makes me grind my teeth each time it is mentioned in this forum. I m talking about so-called angle cuts. Jocks: there ain t no such animal as an angle cut. It s either a bevel or a miter, and sometimes a combination or compound angle. Otherwise, when someone complains that he (or she) is having trouble with angle cuts, I just think “What the hell is this person talking about?” Then I read further in hopes of clarification, which may or may not come.

- runswithscissors

You mean a compound miter?

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#15 posted 12-17-2020 11:52 AM



... It will not tell you the angle of the blade relative to the table top unless your table top is perfectly level. So, if your table saw is setting on a floor that is not level, it is likely that your table top is not level and you won t get an accurate reading from this device.

- bilyo

The one I have already has a zeroing feature. So regardless of the table being level or not, I put the device down, press Zero button and then measure the blade angle. Works great for bevel angles.

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