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Forum topic by Karda posted 12-03-2020 02:43 AM 784 views 0 times favorited 31 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Karda

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12-03-2020 02:43 AM

I cannot put shellac on a bowel without getting runs, no mater what I do how do you add shellac to your bowels. i can get the out side acceptable but the in side bottoms is always streaked thanks Mike


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mel52

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#1 posted 12-03-2020 06:13 AM

I would just give them several super light film coats. Each one will dry quickly and will bond into the one before it. I also got a grin out of your question. If I put shellac on my bowels, I would probably get the runs and have a streaked bottom also. I guessing you meant bowls. Just messing with you a little, no harm meant. Good luck. Mel

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#2 posted 12-03-2020 06:36 AM

Much of the Shellac I apply I do it with a wipe of a rag. I don’t find I need it “wet” to get great coverage. I pretty much wring the cloth out after dunking it in a dish of Shellac. I don’t have a lathe anymore, but on a bowl I would cover my lathe with a cloth, remove the tool rest, and turn the speed low, and go with a barely wet rag. I can’t say runs have ever been a problem. What pound cut are you using? I generally use a 1 pound cut, and several coats.

Wear gloves, it can be pretty sticky depending on your flakes.

Usually I can get to three coats in a bit over an hour at inside the house temps, hot outside and quicker, colder outside and much longer. After 3 coats I’ll let it sit at least overnight, and then is when you knock it back down before adding more. Usually I just use a very fine 0000 steel wool, and only take any nibs I can feel on the outside.

As soon as you add more Shellack it sorts of liquefies the stuff already down, and you add to it. After a while I swap from steel wool after 2 or 3 coats to a crumpled up brown paper bag. Again if I had a lathe I would use it to move the turning, while I gently buffed it. I have to hold it, and sand it like anything else.

I generally do at least 6 coats, sometimes more. Thin to WIN….

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#3 posted 12-03-2020 06:45 AM

Are you mixing your own flakes or using canned? For canned I usually thin down 50/50 with DNA.

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Karda

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#4 posted 12-03-2020 07:25 AM

ya know mel I spelled bowels just so some smart ass could make a remark, at least that is the excuse I am going with, from what you have been sharing I must be putting it on to thick. I am using zissners seal coat, I believe it is 1# cut so I didn’t thin it. I can’t do the slow lathe, my slowest is 750 RPM thanks mike

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#5 posted 12-03-2020 11:58 AM

Your sealcoat is 2# cut.
Suggest you read Mario Rodriguz FWW article “make shellac your go to finish”

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#6 posted 12-03-2020 04:56 PM

ok thanks I’ll dilute

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#7 posted 12-03-2020 05:56 PM

+1 I go with the info therealsteveN gave. I would ask why shellac over many other finishes that are available? Similar to shellac are some of the friction finishes which work well on the turning lathe….even at 750 rpm.

Only the first coat needs to be thinned and while a second coat can go on in about an hour I would wait 24 hours between additional coats for the shellac to harden so it will not dissolve as readily as the new coat goes on. Additional coats must go on without overworking or it will get sticky.

By the way when it comes to “bowels” I would point out that shellac is often used as protective coatings on food…Such ad M&M candy so they don’t melt in your hand and sometimes fruit like apples to polish them up and slow dehydration.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#8 posted 12-03-2020 06:17 PM

how do you add shellac to your bowels. – Karda

Shellac in BOWELS creates runs?
About time someone got serious about Shellac in our diet! Darn stuff is everywhere.
https://www.dmshellac.com/food-grade-shellac/

Just say no to shellac?
Loooool….

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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Karda

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#9 posted 12-03-2020 06:55 PM

why shellac, I need some for another project and I have used it before and I like it, I wanted walnut oil but I don’t know where to find it near me and I don’t feel like paying the shipping

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#10 posted 12-03-2020 09:27 PM

You can buy Mahoney’s Walnut oil from Amazon with free shipping if you have a Prime membership, though it is a little pricey. You can also buy it directly from them here and it is cheaper. It says shipping is free on their webpage so this would be the way to go. They have a 4 oz size if you don’t want to shell out almost $30 for a pint. I’ve never used their straight walnut oil but I like their walnut oil and wax product.

I think that you can technically use walnut oil from the grocery store (often used to make salad dressing) but if it’s not heat treated, it may take a long time to polymerize and it could go rancid if you don’t use it quickly enough so keep it in the fridge.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#11 posted 12-03-2020 09:54 PM

thanks I’ll check that out

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#12 posted 12-03-2020 10:06 PM

Yep can get walnut oil at grocery store or health food store or art stores. I get at Blick Art store, half the price of mahoneys at rockler

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#13 posted 12-03-2020 10:08 PM

ok I’ll try that, does the grocery store oil go rancid

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#14 posted 12-03-2020 10:33 PM

Not really, I’ve had our walnut oil on the kitchen shelf for years and it’s still just oil. We don’t like the flavor, so we don’t cook with it, but my wife uses it instead of Pledge on some of the furniture I made. we (she) never puts it on thick, more of a duster/polish.

-- Mike (near Boston) ... Laziness is the mother of invention, necessity is the mother of exhaustion - me

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#15 posted 12-03-2020 10:44 PM

First three coats of shellac I put on almost one right after the other, but it’s a 1# cut of freshly mixed shellac (mixed on Monday). Those go on with a brush and are mostly soaking into the wood. Then a couple hours to dry, a quick swipe with 400 grit to knock off dust nibs and such, and a final coat or two of shellac gets padded on.

Shellac is food-safe, and I’ve never heard of anyone being allergic to it (many pills were coated in shellac). But putting anything alcoholic in it will damage the finish. Some people are allergic to tree nuts, which would include walnut oil. It’s not a danger once it’s fully cured, but I like shellac’s safety. Especially if mixed with everclear instead of DNA so there’s no methanol involved.

-- Dave - Santa Fe

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