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Forum topic by nicksmurf111 posted 12-01-2020 07:51 PM 1216 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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nicksmurf111

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12-01-2020 07:51 PM

Have you ever picked up a machine that likely killed or maimed the previous owner? I purchased a new-to-me hollow chisel mortiser last night. It obviously had a retrofitted power switch, but after further inspection it must have had a hot chassis. I’m pretty sure the previous owner had passed away from what I gathered while picking it up. eek. Oh well.

-- Nicholas


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Loren

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#1 posted 12-01-2020 08:05 PM

No. You think the previous owner was killed operating your machine?

People get killed or seriously injured using lathes sometimes.

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SMP

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#2 posted 12-01-2020 08:33 PM

Only cars, mainly at auctions. There is also the story of my brother’s cursed motorcycle. My power tools i buy new, so it will be my survivors who write about my tools.

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#3 posted 12-02-2020 05:39 PM

I used to do accident investigation. I’ve been to a few dozen storage yards filled with cars, trucks and motorcycles showing the signs of accident with injury. It made me a better driver….

-- I won't even try to tell other people how to live their lives: they're not listening and I'm probly wrong.

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CaptainKlutz

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#4 posted 12-03-2020 06:05 PM

Yes.
The older the machine, the more likely you will find PO abuse.

Bought and restored one 50 year old Unisaw that had 3 different magnetic motor starter boxes bolted to outside, each with different conduit holes drilled into cabinet. 2 of the metal boxes were empty. Box being used didn’t have conduit or grommets and wire was cut/shorted on metal edge. Poor cabinet looked like Swiss cheese when torn down. Welded plugs into all the holes, and repainted everything.

In another 50 years when then next guy rebuilds that Unisaw, wonder what they will say about my all metal weld repairs that didn’t require body putty? :-)

FWIW – In 50-60’s tool companies sold bare tools without motors, and provided plans for work bench where motor was underneath, sharing the belt among tools to save money on hobby shop. Popular Mechanics Magazine even used to publish plans for DIY on many tools from household junk. You can find those tool modules welded/bolted into all kinds of strange contraptions. There is very long thread over on OWWM forums titled ‘Previous Owner Mods – Laugh or cry’; if you want some good examples.

Cheers!

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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SMP

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#5 posted 12-03-2020 06:46 PM

FWIW – In 50-60 s tool companies sold bare tools without motors, and provided plans for work bench where motor was underneath, sharing the belt among tools to save money on hobby shop. Popular Mechanics Magazine even used to publish plans for DIY on many tools from household junk. You can find those tool modules welded/bolted into all kinds of strange contraptions. There is very long thread over on OWWM forums titled Previous Owner Mods – Laugh or cry ; if you want some good examples.

Cheers!

- CaptainKlutz

That is also why men in the 50s and 60s had buzz cuts and rarley had long hair. Survival of the fittest with those tools meant long hair equals death. It weren’t that there were no female woodworkers in those days, its just that they are still trapped under benches in some basement somewhwre. They also liked to eat fingers.

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#6 posted 12-03-2020 07:03 PM

I can’t say that I’ve ever picked up a machine that injured/maimed the PO, but I have picked up one or two where I wanted to injure/maim the PO.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#7 posted 12-03-2020 07:27 PM

The gal I bought my old Shop Smith Model 10ER says her dad took the tip of his thumb off with it. If you’re not familiar with one the table tilts to cut angles instead of the blade. Story goes he was using it with the table tilted at 45 deg and thats when the accident happened. After the accident the shop smith became a dedicated lathe for turning bowls and he bought a Rockwell Delta 10” cabinet saw. She still uses that saw in her wood shop. If she ever decides to sell it I’m her first call. Her dad took VERY good care of his machines and as far as she knows the only accident he ever had was on the Shop Smith.

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#8 posted 12-03-2020 08:33 PM

I bought The Mangler from Stephen King:

-- "Melodies decaying in sweet dissonance." - I. Anderson

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#9 posted 12-03-2020 10:03 PM

I flipped tools for a lot of years, and YES I have seen a number of tools that in their current shape they could be harmful, probably not fatal, but in the electrical cases could have been if said user was wet, barefoot, at the same time. I think a good jiggle most of the time, but ya never know.

Most of them I passed on these, because I wasn’t a rebuilder, but a few were so low priced I rolled the dice, or already knew of a capable individual who wanted bones to build from.

Mostly I was where Fred is talking about, and just wanted to smack whoever it was that so abused a machine, more so on the decent ones, something like Capn K’s Uni. Fix it, if your plans are to reinvent, then do it correctly.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#10 posted 12-03-2020 11:50 PM

had a print shop a couple decades ago, and a fella ran his hand up to wrist in the paper shear, we found him almost bled out, needless to say we gave him a hand up. lol, sorry , couldn’t help it, but he did survive and have seen him a few years ago, working in another print shop. it was an ugly one. several of the gals passed out.
rj in az

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