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11-24-2020 12:45 PM

Looked great a year ago…..

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!


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#1 posted 11-24-2020 01:57 PM

Can you please provide a bit of perspective about what you’re showing? This looks like it might be a face frame of a cabinet where the wood is the side and front panels is separating a bit from the frame. Is that what we’re seeing?

Where are you located? Is your home humidified? It looks like the wood in the side and front panels might just be shrinking a bit due to natural seasonal movement caused by lower humidity this time of year.

-- Gary, Wisconsin

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#2 posted 11-24-2020 02:58 PM

That’s what you’re seeing. I think you’re right. I think the stiles contracted a bit.

I attached the rails with pocket screws and could only get so far due the arches, which left the bottom couple inches free to float.

Next time a mortise and tenon, right?

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#3 posted 11-24-2020 04:48 PM

I’m not sure a mortise and tenon would help. It might. Were the joints glued all the way, including where you’re seeing the gaps opening?

-- Gary, Wisconsin

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#4 posted 11-24-2020 04:59 PM

I would expect that’s normal seasonal movement for solid wood construction.
It looks fine to me I bet the overall piece looks great !

-- Aj

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#5 posted 11-24-2020 07:16 PM



which left the bottom couple inches free to float.

- Robert

what type of cut on the lumber? flat,rift, or QS?

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#6 posted 11-24-2020 11:04 PM



I m not sure a mortise and tenon would help. It might. Were the joints glued all the way, including where you re seeing the gaps opening?

- GaryCK

Yes, my issue was the bottom 2” or so of the arch isn’t attached. If I had done a mortise all the way down instead of chincing out with pocket screws it doubt it would have happened.

Of course I’m the only one in the damn house that even saw it.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#7 posted 11-25-2020 03:18 AM

It’s hard to say different joinery would have stopped it. Maybe.

How wide of board? If it’s on the larger side, say 6” or so, I doubt anything would have stopped it.

I have given up on trying to get joints like this perfect and accentuate the joint instead. I actually like the look better and you never have to deal with hair line cracks. They drive me nuts and I can’t handle them.

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#8 posted 11-25-2020 03:20 AM

Well, naturally! :-)

Of course I’m the only one in the damn house that even saw it.

-- Gary, Wisconsin

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#9 posted 11-25-2020 02:20 PM

I like the idea of routing a v groove, but to me it looks a little “commercial”.

I think the way I’ll do it next time is a full mortise, draw bored.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#10 posted 11-25-2020 04:11 PM

since its painted i would just put a screw in it and bondo over head :<))

that might work :<))

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#11 posted 11-25-2020 04:20 PM

I have given up on trying to get joints like this perfect and accentuate the joint instead. I actually like the look better and you never have to deal with hair line cracks. They drive me nuts and I can’t handle them.

- CWWoodworking

+1. Chamfer the edges before you join them. Classic way to hide potential a flaws that may develop over time.

I could not tell from your response. Did you actually glue them or not? You said that you left the bottom free to float.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#12 posted 11-25-2020 07:39 PM

Most of the time I ease the edge of both pieces, giving a V effect. Edges need to be eased anyway, just go slightly further than normal. I never use router.

Some companies put a 1/16th saw kerf on horizontal piece.

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