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DekerB

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11-21-2020 06:23 PM

I’ve been looking for my first table saw and was initially thinking of going with a portable saw like the Skilsaw SPT99 or the Bosch 4100XC, but I came across this listing for a contractor saw on Craigslist and am wondering if this might be a better option. I’m a novice and don’t really know how to evaluate if this is a good deal. Any advice would be appreciated.

Asking price is $325 and all parts are original.


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#1 posted 11-21-2020 06:38 PM

I don’t think those “motorized” saws have parts availability so if it breaks you have to scrap the saw. They have an innovative flexible shaft inside that didn’t catch on. It looks in relatively fresh condition though so perhaps that’s not a concern.

It lacks a riving knife which is not a deal breaker to me, but they’ve been put on USA saws for near 10 years now so there should be some supply in the used market by now. That should depress the value though. Another factor is you might not like the fence but if you have nothing newer to compare it with you might not mind.

Regional prices on lighter woodworking machinery vary a lot regionally but I wouldn’t pay more than $150 for it and only then if it was the only local choice in a contractor saw. Generally a lot of machinery loses half it’s retail value when it’s used, imo, except for Powermatic and stuff that is relatively new and pristine.

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#2 posted 11-21-2020 06:58 PM

That price might have been just shy of new price when it was on sale. I’d offer of $200. Without a riving knife or splitter, is a safety issue to me.

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#3 posted 11-21-2020 07:15 PM

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#4 posted 11-21-2020 07:35 PM

I used to work at Sears all those years ago, and if that is the original owner, he got to use it forever, and then is selling it for a hundred dollar profit if he bought that loss leader saw on sale. Back then a lot of folks didn’t have much better than a Craftsman available. Saws weren’t something a little truck pulled up with one in back, so Craftsman was the deal, and that was the bottom of the line for them. I would take a strong pass, all original or not. Unless you were a collector of just Craftsman saws, then that might be worth it to a collector like that.

You don’t have a location listed. Post a loose location, I use SW Ohio, nobody knows where unless I tell them, but gives people the idea of general location. This could be important if a member had a saw to sell, and lived near you.

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DekerB

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#5 posted 11-21-2020 07:55 PM

Thank you all for your input. It sounds like I should probably keep looking.

@therealSteveN: Good idea, I’ve updated my location in my profile (Los Angeles). I’d be happy to buy from a member if the opportunity arose.

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#6 posted 11-21-2020 09:57 PM

Wow, motorized! No more of this pedal powered table saw.

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#7 posted 11-21-2020 10:16 PM

Thank you all for your input. It sounds like I should probably keep looking.
- DekerB

Good move – even though it’s complete and appears to be in very good condition, I wouldn’t pay more than about $50 for it. It is a direct drive model and has the stamped steel extension wings, which a lot of people dislike for multiple reasons. On the positive side, it does have the upgraded semi-enclosed stand with wheels. If you are in the market for a contractor saw, keep and eye out for one with a belt driven induction motor and optionally, cast iron extension wings.

Those contractor saws (Delta and Craftsman) turn up all the time on CL, usually in the $100-$150 range depending on condition and what is included. I’ve run across them for $50 with tons of extra goodies thrown in (mobile base, sleds, blades, dado stacks, etc…).

Cheers,
Brad

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#8 posted 11-21-2020 10:20 PM

That is way too high for that saw, you can get a good 113. series Craftsman with cast iron wings for under $200. Keep looking, one will pop up, they made millions of them.

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#9 posted 11-21-2020 10:28 PM

You can do better. I’m in so cal I know for sure saws come up on a regular basis. In the used market. Be sure to look at other types of listing for woodworking machines. That’s were the best deals are hiding.
For instance someone might be selling a bandsaw with a table saw or jointer hiding in the background.
Good luck

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#10 posted 11-21-2020 10:43 PM

You might look at this. It could serve you for some time. larry

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/tls/d/valencia-table-saw/7230083316.html

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#11 posted 11-22-2020 02:54 AM

Was at Menards today to get a 5” orbital sander. Looked in the isle with the table saws they offered. You can get new with roughly the same spec for about $300. I’d now say offering $200 is too much. Not able to edit my previous post on this. I’d say, pass on this saw.

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DekerB

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#12 posted 12-03-2020 11:36 PM

Still searching for my first table saw. I found this one with a belt driven motor and cast iron extension wings that seems to be in good condition. The seller is asking $300. Seems a little high based on the advice I’ve received here, but I’m not sure about the quality of the included fence. Does this seem reasonable?

Also, does anyone have a guess as to the model number for this saw? The seller has told me that the label is worn and it’s difficult to make out.

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#13 posted 12-03-2020 11:45 PM

That’s a much preferable saw. Those fences are not bad at all, imo.

Is the price a little high? yeah, maybe, but you have to consider what things like this go for in your area. Often sellers have the one machine and don’t know much about pricing table saws.

In my area that saw would fetch $200 tops I think, so you might try to see how the seller feels about that. Sometimes people will wave a hand and let it go for cheaper than expected when they don’t know a lot about it.

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DekerB

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#14 posted 12-04-2020 12:48 AM

Thanks, Loren. I’m also in LA so perhaps some negotiation is in order. Also curious to know if in your opinion a new contractor saw like the Delta 36-725T2 would be enough of an improvement to justify the $600+tax cost compared to one of these older Craftsman 113 saws.

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#15 posted 12-04-2020 10:36 AM

It’s a good entry level saw. The fence is far superior to the first one. But still, it is what it is. If you can hold out and keep looking, the older model Rockwell/Deltas are good machines. Conversely the older model C’man are junk (yeah, I said it!)

Note: You’ll want to be sure to go through a complete alignment procedure before using.

Does it have a motor hanging off the back with a pulley and belt? Check the motor plate if it is a true 3HP motor (which I doubt) it will require a 240 circuit. If it has a standard 120V plug, then it is “3HP” in name only, but regardless should probably have a dedicated circuit.

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