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11-05-2020 05:01 PM

Quick question…

I’ve had it with the horrible fence that came with my Rigid R4513 saw, alignment is constantly off, front to back, so time to look for an upgrade. Best bang for the buck seems to be the Delta T3 fence at around $200.

So, has anyone installed the Delta T3 fence on a Rigid R4513 job site saw?


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#1 posted 11-05-2020 05:54 PM

You probably have to upgrade the rails as well. Make sure your ailment is not off by the lift mechanism or trunnions. I had that saw and there’s a history with that issue.

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#2 posted 11-05-2020 06:09 PM

Thanks. Doesn’t the T3 come with new rails?

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#3 posted 11-05-2020 06:11 PM

Most any fence system can be set onto most any Contractor, Hybrid, or Cabinet saw. Worst case possible is you may need to drill and tap a hole into the cast iron top for the right sided bolt. Usually not in my experience though.

For years I was an outlet for Vega fences, and they would go on most any of the above type saws. The Vega, and the past Delta fences have very similar hole patterns. T2’s are an ok fence. I have one on my Delata 39-696. I’m not sure if the T3 is the same, or a cheapened up version? You know how things go with manufacturers, if they can save a penny, they will. Generally the quality is what suffers.

Vega fences are becoming harder to get, seems like they make them in batches. You can still get them directly through Vega though. I don’t know of a better fence. For that saw I would suggest the Home Shop, or the Utility fence over the “Pro” it’s the exact same fence, just smaller in size, but both have the micro-adjuster, and will do fine work. The Pro’s are sized just bigger than your Beisemyer fence, with the Home fence being about the same size as most Contractor saw fences will be, much like the T2. It wasn’t long ago I sold one to an LJ’er who lives not too far from me. I have CRS syndrome since retiring, but I want to say he was putting it on the Rigid saw. I do know he got it on without a lot of effort.

http://vegawoodworking.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Vega-Pricing-5.20.2019.pdf

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#4 posted 11-05-2020 06:13 PM



Thanks. Doesn’t the T3 come with new rails?

- PPD417

PM me your link, or post it here, and I will tell you an answer. It isn’t rare that something be offered by the part that would catch your eye, and not be complete. Sad way to do business, but it certainly isn’t rare.

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#5 posted 11-05-2020 06:28 PM

Thanks for the info, much appreciated

Here’s the link to the Delta T3.

Delta, 36-T30T3, 30 in. DELTA T3 Fence System https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079TTTWR2/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_api_fabc_nnePFbD2X3WVS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

And just for clarification, the R4513 is a portable job site saw.

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#6 posted 11-05-2020 06:52 PM

Since you mentioned Vega, I stumbled upon a You Tube video of
a guy installing the 50” fence system on the same saw I have.

https://youtu.be/5Hbc8-Ed4ts

By the way, do you still sell Vega fences?

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#7 posted 11-06-2020 12:04 AM



Since you mentioned Vega, I stumbled upon a You Tube video of
a guy installing the 50” fence system on the same saw I have.

https://youtu.be/5Hbc8-Ed4ts

By the way, do you still sell Vega fences?

- PPD417

Wow, well that video answers the question of can it be done. And I think it will be a big help no matter what brand fence you end up with.
And like Steve said, most fences can be added to almost any table saw.
It does look like the Delta fence you added the link to comes with the rails.
just make sure as you order, because you can buy most fences without the rail.

I upgraded a Ridgid R4512 a few years back. Pretty simple, straight forward job.

-- John

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#8 posted 11-06-2020 06:05 AM

John,,

Thanks for the info. Looks like I’ll probably go with the Vega (U36).
By the way, nice TS setup, I wish I could have a permanent setup, but my
“shop” is half of a two car garage, so all my tools are on wheels.

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#9 posted 11-06-2020 08:08 AM



Thanks for the info, much appreciated

Here’s the link to the Delta T3.

Delta, 36-T30T3, 30 in. DELTA T3 Fence System https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079TTTWR2/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_api_fabc_nnePFbD2X3WVS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

And just for clarification, the R4513 is a portable job site saw.

- PPD417

Yes that is the entire rail set, front and back, and the fence. Part # is 36-T30T3

That same part number is listed on E replacement and specifies both rails, and fence.

https://www.ereplacementparts.com/delta-rip-fence-and-rail-system-p-195276.html

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#10 posted 11-06-2020 08:30 AM



Since you mentioned Vega, I stumbled upon a You Tube video of
a guy installing the 50” fence system on the same saw I have.

https://youtu.be/5Hbc8-Ed4ts

By the way, do you still sell Vega fences?

- PPD417

No I just sold the last whole, NEW fence I had, and I hadn’t gotten any in several years. They started wanting to go with Amazon, and Amazon has been doing a good job of selling them out of each lot they give them. Plus I never did ship them, How Amazon can for the price they get (FREE) I have no idea, Shipping is expensive, and a set weighs in around 60 pounds in the box. I just sold locally, though at times locally was folks coming to see me from out of state.

If you end up having any fit problems with whichever fence you end up with, use a piece of square tubing, and drill/tap that out to fit the holes in your cast iron. Hang the tubing, then you can drill/tap the tubing without any possibility of damage to the saw, and if you go to sell it in 5 years or so, you can always unhook the upgrade fence, and just sell the saw with the factory fence.

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#11 posted 11-07-2020 03:14 PM

Both the Vega and Delta look great. The Delta has a great price point of $199 vs $329 for the Vega U26.
For the Vega, I can only find the U26 and U50. Because of my space limitations, the 50” will be too long.
Wondering if the U26 will be too short? Vega makes a Pro 40, but no one stocks it.

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#12 posted 11-07-2020 05:39 PM


Both the Vega and Delta look great. The Delta has a great price point of $199 vs $329 for the Vega U26.
For the Vega, I can only find the U26 and U50. Because of my space limitations, the 50” will be too long.
Wondering if the U26 will be too short? Vega makes a Pro 40, but no one stocks it.

- PPD417

Of the fences we are talking about here. The delta has 30” to the right, and the U26 as its name suggests is only 26” to the right.

So how much fence rail do you want? The rails on most all these fences can be cut to a desired length.
And with the delta square tube fences you can get the tubing at almost any steel supply. I believe its simple 2”X2” square tube on that fence. So the fence comes as a 30”, but if that proves to be shorter than you want, buying a longer tube is simple enough. And just angle iron for the rear rail. And maybe still cheaper than a U50. Would have to check the price on that tube.

The Vega has that round rail. I’ve never used that fence and I have no idea about replacing the round tube front rail. But the U26 I feel is too short. And on Rockler the U50 is only $20 more. So if your going to invest in the more pricey Vega. I would go U50. And if you can avoid it, don’t cut it right away. Live with the long fence a little while. Seems fences come in 30’, 36” or 50”. And while 50” may be to long to fit comfy in your shop. with some time to adjust. Maybe you custom cut it to some length other than the standard 36”
Only you will know what’s best. Maybe you end up with 40” rails.

-- John

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#13 posted 11-07-2020 05:58 PM

John,,

Appreciate the info. The price difference between the U26 and U50 in nominal, so that’s not a concern. As I mentioned before, space is my biggest issue so I’ll have to see if I can realistically fit my saw with 50” rails in my tiny workspace.

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