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Forum topic by jbmaine posted 10-27-2020 12:23 PM 495 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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jbmaine

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10-27-2020 12:23 PM

Hi all,
I saw in Craig’s list a local small wood supplier was offering curly maple for sale, $ 6.00 a BF. That’s pretty much all it said, along with this picture.

I called and was told I could stop by anytime. I went over yesterday PM. I asked to see the curly maple and was shown a pile of rough maple. I asked to see the maple in the picture and was told if I wanted it planed it would be extra.

I ended up leaving but now I’m wondering. Was it too much to believe the picture should represent what is being sold?
Am I just too old fashioned, or too picky?


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#1 posted 10-27-2020 12:26 PM

Well, that sure looks pretty. I suppose you could chose one board at random and have it planed. If it’s not curly, then don’t buy it. From what I’ve read, the curly is in the tree starting from the outside, so inner boards might not be as curly as those cut closer to the surface.

-Paul

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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#2 posted 10-27-2020 01:08 PM

It should have been listed as rough sawn for 6.00 bdf, planing & edging available. I would have asked about surfacing, edging, thickness, lengths and widths available. I agree with showing a picture of the planed product so you can see an example of what the grain pattern looks like.

-- NorthWoodsMan

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#3 posted 10-27-2020 02:35 PM

If allowed, It is useful to bring a small hand plane along and clean up a portion to reveal a smooth surface. Wet it to look for figure.

When buying lumber for figure, I expect to confirm that figure since it ups the price. For lumber called out only by species, any detail of the surface is not expected other than the normal grading callout.

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#4 posted 10-27-2020 03:09 PM

To the OP, what is your location?

Here in PA, it is a given that wood is sold rough sawn, generally kiln dried, with surfacing or jointing extra. Take a block plane with you, to look at the smoothed surface. If you are in the North East, a top lumber supplier is Groff Lumber, in Quaryville, PA. I’ve been buying from them for years, and never an issue. They will mail order, shipping via UPS, with shipping charges very modest.

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jbmaine

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#5 posted 10-27-2020 05:56 PM



To the OP, what is your location?

Here in PA, it is a given that wood is sold rough sawn, generally kiln dried, with surfacing or jointing extra. Take a block plane with you, to look at the smoothed surface. If you are in the North East, a top lumber supplier is Groff Lumber, in Quaryville, PA. I ve been buying from them for years, and never an issue. They will mail order, shipping via UPS, with shipping charges very modest.

-I’m in southern Maine. Around here wood is usually listed as rough, S3S, etc. I tried to buy the piece of wood in the picture, they wouldn’t sell it to me.


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#6 posted 10-27-2020 06:37 PM

I only have experience with one local saw mill. He doesnt typically carry figured wood since he’s retired and just using the mill as extra income. If he does happen to get some figured lumber he planes at least one side so you can see it. Maybe that isn’t typical but I’m of the mindset if you’re selling figured lumber I should be able to see it when I get there.

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#7 posted 10-27-2020 06:39 PM

I take a plane along so I can see grain. Rough is totally normal. That being said, If there was only one picture, and it was of a planed board, then I would be disappointed. If I were selling, I would show pics of the rough boards and then show that picture with a caption, “looks like this when planed.”

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#8 posted 10-27-2020 06:46 PM

I ran into the same problem with a guy selling 1” x 10” maple for $7 per board, not per board foot, but in the title and in the body of the ad $7 per board. I sent a message asking how long a 1” x 10” maple board was he had advertised for $7? He sent me a message back ”$7 is just a number, what length are you looking for?” So I replied (knowing at this point I was dealing with an idiot I was very unlikely to do business with) “Whatever length you $7 per board, as stated in your ad, will buy me.” He said it would be $21 for an 8’ board.

We went back and forth just enough more so anyone reviewing his post would have no trouble understanding he was practicing bait and switch advertising and had all but admitted it. It’s very frustrating when you take the time to sort based on what you’re looking for and have to deal with aholes like this.

-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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