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Forum topic by sansoo22 posted 10-26-2020 01:41 AM 709 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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sansoo22

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10-26-2020 01:41 AM

My garage shop was broken into last night. I was awake at the time and watching TV. My alarm was armed and the panel announced “Intruder Garage”. So I grabbed my side arm and went to check it out. My garage door opener has a motion sensor for the light and the door between the kitchen and garage has a window with a curtain. Sure enough the light was on so I peak thru the curtain and see a man opening drawers in my big Milwaukee toolbox 4ft from the door. I threw open the door and chased him off at gun point and then dialed 911.

As the police were checking out my house and taking my report they got a call about a break-in 4 houses down from mine. They think it was a tweaker desperate for a fix.

I think I will be adding bars to the window on the man door in the garage as well as drop bar to keep it from getting kicked in. I like having a window in it to let in some natural light but will probably build a shutter for it that I can close to keep prying eyes from peaking in. I have a shutter on the big side window already.

I know the world has pretty much lost its collective damn mind and I should have addressed the security issues earlier. In my defense my home sat vacant for 5 yrs before I bought it without a single security issue. My neighborhood is really really quiet for the most part. Most excitement we’ve seen is a smoker catching fire last Thanksgiving and burning down a shed.

So I guess use my story as a warning. As we approach the holiday season it seems theft will be on the rise. If you have areas of your shop and/or home you know have security vulnerabilities I suggest addressing those.


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#1 posted 10-26-2020 02:07 AM

Glad it was safely stopped and that nothing was stolen.
I have an alarm system also. I have very loud sirens that will sound if any of the sensors are tripped and the alarm is not disarmed in 60 seconds. Do you have a siren? I would have thought ( and do think) the siren would scare someone off. Anyway… a little wake up call for all of us.
Stay safe.
jon

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#2 posted 10-26-2020 02:38 AM

I do have a siren. My standard “armed stay” mode is kicked on at 11 pm every night. Starting at dark the alarm goes into a “soft armed” state. It basically tracks your behaviors and announces anomalies to those behaviors in this state. The garage was broken in to at 10:58 pm last night. I guess since i rarely use that door after dark it assumed it was an intruder and announced it. Had the break in happened like 2 minutes later the siren would have kicked off.

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#3 posted 10-26-2020 03:20 AM

A friend who is a Doc works occasional at a drug rehab place. The subject of increased theft to fund drug purchases came up. He told myself, and another friend who lives not too far away, we were OK. Almost at the same time we both asked, why, because we own guns?

He chuckled, and said no, it’s because out where you country boys live, everybody owns guns….. Evidently it’s known as a no fly zone to the dopers, lest they get their asses shot off.

Silent security at work, well silent till ya use it anyhow.

Even with that in mind I’m looking at motion, callers, and sirens, for both the house, and the barn. I don’t sleep as well as I used to, but when I do sleep, it takes a lot more to wake me up. Air raid siren at 0dark30, gonna do the job.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#4 posted 10-26-2020 04:27 AM

I have my workshop facing the street… Usually not an issue, however, if I want to bathe in the sun during the day and forget to swithd off the lights and pull down my holland blinds at night, it is an open invitation to anyone walking past…

Touch wood I haven’t been broken into (yet) but I do have a surveilence camera covering the driveway entry and a motion sensor light. I also have rio over all my windows secured enough that any break in would not go easily or undetected.

Some have tried to see close-up of the contents, however, I have captured on camera, shady pedestrians seeing the light in the shop on and come up the driveway only to be driven away by either the motion light or the close up of the rio (or both)...

Either way, I do recommend rio as it is low profile, and will provide sufficent protection against the average burglar… only 24×7 armed guards would protect against professionals.

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#5 posted 10-26-2020 07:30 AM

Up here in Canada you would have been charged with a firearms violation. Not even kidding.

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#6 posted 10-26-2020 07:59 AM

I stand corrected, should be reo not rio...

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#7 posted 10-26-2020 02:23 PM

unclearthur The police didn’t even care that I had used a firearm. I even left it out for them to see what I had used just in case it came up later. They simply asked the magazine be removed while they were in the house. They never did check the chamber though. Maybe they were being nice and leaving me one round if i needed it.

therealSteveN My parents live 15 min outside a college town on a gravel road. They have seen some suspicious boot prints around the windows to their pole barn. My dad is a vet with a “shoot first” attitude so everyone in the area knows he’s armed. He ended up adding some very bright motion sensor lights around that building and putting wire fence panels over the windows.

LBD I have a camera on my back patio but its in a corner trying to cover two doors. It caught the would be thief but on the very edge of the frame so not sure how useful it will be to the detectives. I run two smart home systems. One for the security that I pay a fee to have hooked to OnStar and another open source platform I have complete control of. I will be adding motion sensors on the patio and smart switches to the patio lights of the system i control.

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#8 posted 10-26-2020 05:37 PM

I have had two friends that have garage/shop break-ins while they weren’t home. The same method was used in both instances. The ironic thing is that I told the second friend how to prevent it and he shrugged me off thinking it won’t happen to him. For people that have electric garage door openers all someone has to do is to push in the top of the door about 1/4” (very easy to do) and stick a piece of wire or a coat hanger in that has a bend on the end and grab that short little rope with the emergency release on it and give it a gentle tug. Presto, garage door opens right up. I took the red knobs/handles off of mine, cut off the knot, and made the rope short enough where it cannot reach to the opening at the top of the door. It probably doesn’t meet some sort of code but If I can each up and grab the knob I can certainly reach up and grab the rope just as easy.

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#9 posted 10-26-2020 05:51 PM

I don’t think I would have been as lenient. I’d prolly shot his ass, or at least wounded him so when the cops came, they would have proof of the break-in. ! I have no tolerence for sum bags like that…...!! You had probable cause.

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#10 posted 10-26-2020 07:03 PM

Wow that’s disturbing. Glad it didn’t result in loss of life or property. Here’s hoping they don’t come back!

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#11 posted 10-26-2020 07:07 PM


... For people that have electric garage door openers all someone has to do is to push…
- northwoodsman

Thanks, You have now told me how I can burgle half my neighbourhood… Just joking, I would only rob people I know.

I don t think I would have been as lenient. I d prolly shot his ass…
- Rick Dennington

A warning shot through the head is a fair deterrent.

It just pisses me off how we must spend thousands of dollars to protect a few pennies.

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#12 posted 10-26-2020 07:49 PM



I have had two friends that have garage/shop break-ins while they weren t home. The same method was used in both instances. The ironic thing is that I told the second friend how to prevent it and he shrugged me off thinking it won t happen to him. For people that have electric garage door openers all someone has to do is to push in the top of the door about 1/4” (very easy to do) and stick a piece of wire or a coat hanger in that has a bend on the end and grab that short little rope with the emergency release on it and give it a gentle tug. Presto, garage door opens right up. I took the red knobs/handles off of mine, cut off the knot, and made the rope short enough where it cannot reach to the opening at the top of the door. It probably doesn t meet some sort of code but If I can each up and grab the knob I can certainly reach up and grab the rope just as easy.

- northwoodsman


thats a great point,most people dont even think about that little hack.

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#13 posted 10-26-2020 08:07 PM

Glad it wasn’t worse Sansoo.

Prior to us buying our house a previous owner had a security system installed that covers pretty much all of the house. Every man door that has a window also has a double-sided deadbolt (keyed both sides). The only two doors that are single sided deadbolts are the garage to house door, and the door to the shop (both of which are steel non-window, and I’ve since reinforced the deadbolt strike plates).

The shop garage door has no opener, and the sliding lock on it has been slid shut (and locked) for probably 4 years now

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#14 posted 10-26-2020 08:57 PM

One thing is for certain, there aren’t really any more thieves than any past time. However we now have a HUGE army of walking dead, addicted in all ways to drugs meant to kill the people taking them, one way or the other. In order to get the drug they want to take they will do anything to get it. Seeing as they are pretty much already dead there isn’t much the rest of us feel is right or wrong, it just doesn’t seem to apply to them. So theft to murder, it’s been done by them to get what they want.

As the late Michael Conrad used to say in his role as Sgt. Phil Esterhaus on Hill Street Blues.

Let’s be careful out there.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#15 posted 10-26-2020 09:23 PM

Another thought just as I posted above. I hear you folks talking deadbolt, just make sure those deadbolts are bumpproof. If unsure what that means please Google bumping doors open, and NO it isn’t about kicking it in, it’s a simple to do, almost quiet bumping of the lock itself, and they open like someone has the correct key. Newer locks are still bumpable in many cases, unless you get unbumpable locks. See about it here Older locks were mostly all bumpable prior to 2005. Since it’s become a hotter topic, many other door devices are made to stop entry if bumped. Still the best defense here isn’t a piece of plastic to keep a 200 pound person out, it’s changing locks to a secure lockset that can’t be bumped in the first place.

If your overhead door is in a shop only building like mine is. I DO NOT have an opener in any vehicle, therefore I must go into the shop to open the overhead door on the occassions I am going to bring something large into the shop, usually wood. All other times I keep the doors actual bolt thrown, so I don’t need to depend on a plastic tie. Thing about that is, you MUST remember that door is really locked, because it’s pure hell on the opener if you try to run it when bolted. I also do that to ALL of my overhead doors if we are away for any length of time.

Mosquito makes a valid point though of also putting in a reinforced jamb at the position of the locks posts. These are thicker than normal pieces of metal, you need to chisel these in (come on, we are woodworkers yes?) once installed. Instead of a well placed lick kicking in a small area of security, where the entire door can fold in, it’s a steady plate extending both upward, and down so a single kick might give a good shake, but rarely a failure of the door jamb. ALSO always use LONG screws, you need to get them into the frame of the house itself, not just the doors frame.

Also look into what you need to do to ANY overhead door to make them unshakable. That fix is almost free, and easy to do if you can get to the travel bar of the door. See about it here.

-- Think safe, be safe

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