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AGolden

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10-23-2020 03:33 AM

Topic tags/keywords: vice bench face vice

hello all,

I recently found that my cheep garbage vice from woodcraft was completely busted. I have been looking for a new vice and could use some opinions. I don’t want to go too cheep and have to live with a frustration until it breaks but I also don’t know if i can go in on a $400 vice from Veritas but might be willing to go up if I know it’s going to be life changing.

Specifically I am looking for a face vice (not an end vice, moxon vice, etc.)
I have a Nicholson style bench for reference and I am not sure a leg vice would work but am interested in your opinions, I have also been thinking about the possibility of a wooden screw vice. Thank you all for your input!


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SMP

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#1 posted 10-23-2020 04:20 AM

If I had the money I would get one of these made in USA ones:
https://toolsforworkingwood.com/store/item/MS-VISE.XX

But, i didn’t have the money so I got one of the Yost vises on amazon, basically a Record clone made of chinesium, half the price of the made in USA ones and gets the job done. I did take off the screw and sanded all the arrises off wit 600 wet dry paper and oiled it. The machining was as expected.

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dbw

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#2 posted 10-23-2020 12:14 PM

I’ve had one of these 10” for 15 years. Very well made and works very well.

https://www.wiltontools.com/us/en/view-series/heavy-duty-woodworking-vises/HDWoodVise

-- Measure twice, cut once. If you cut it too short get a wood stretcher.

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Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 10-23-2020 12:38 PM

The Milwaukee vise linked above appears to e identical in design to the Jorgenson 41012s I have. I bought the first one probably 15 years ago, and got the second one from a fellow who was leaving woodworking. they are excellent, and I can’t recommend them enough. But the Wilton that was linked was cheaper, plus it has a removable swiveling jaw, and there have been quite a few times I wish I had it. Between the 2, I’d probably go with the Wilton, but either one will do you very well.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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squazo

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#4 posted 10-23-2020 01:38 PM

What broke on your vice?. Maybe you can fix or scavenge parts.

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bondogaposis

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#5 posted 10-23-2020 03:49 PM

Post a photo of your bench. I am having a hard time envisioning how you would mount anything other than a leg vise on a Nicholson style bench.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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AndyJ1s

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#6 posted 10-23-2020 07:43 PM

It’s hard to tell from the pictures, but can a flat, wooden vise jaw face be mounted behind the Wilton’s tilting jaw, such that when you remove the latter, the flat wooden jaw is there, ready to go?

I can think of too many applications where I would not want the tilting jaw, but to be able to quickly switch to/from it, while still having wooden faces either way. Can the tilting jaw be locked in place, parallel to the other jaw? The manual does not state so, and the exploded parts diagram does not indicate so either.

Interesting choice of “C-channel” formed from sheet steel, in lieu of conventional, round steel bars spaced farther apart. Although, the narrower channel does give more room for clamping something tall beside it in the vise (like a table leg held vertically).

Not that I haven’t thought of an additional woodworking vise for the shop, but I already have a very good, conventional woodworking vise I inherited from my grandfather. Built like a tank. It’s “quick-release” mechanism consists of a wide, lengthwise slot in the screw, in which the mating thread block slides for rapid adjustment. But oh, the times it brings to mind…

-- Andy - Arlington TX

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#7 posted 10-24-2020 01:04 AM

I have the “chinesium” Yost and it works fine for me. Took some attention like SMP said, but compared to $200-400 it does what i need. Having the retractable bench dog is as useful as the vice faces. The quick release has not given me any trouble. For angled pieces, I just use a wedge, but for wood chunks bigger than 5 1/2”, I have to find another way to hold them.

-- Mike (near Boston) ... Laziness is the mother of invention, necessity is the mother of exhaustion - me

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bigJohninvegas

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#8 posted 10-24-2020 05:40 AM

I am using this vise from Lee Valley,
https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/workshop/workbenches/vises/49980-quick-release-steel-bench-vises?item=10G0413

You would not be disappointed with a Veritas Vise. but I chose my vise for the same reason you mentioned.
Price.
My vise is about 3 years old now. No sign of wear so far. Listed on the Lee valley site that it is made in Europe.

-- John

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Chiaroscuro

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#9 posted 10-24-2020 06:01 AM

Mine’s from Harbor Freight… wanna guess how that went? That being said, look at the moxon vise on my profile. I use that for 95% of all my clamping. And the cost was the wood and the thread/tap which was on sale for < $60.

-- Todd

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Robert

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#10 posted 10-24-2020 10:08 AM

On one bench I a 10” Jorgensen quick release (not so quick on the release) and a Rockler.

Of the 2, no question the Jorg is stouter and barely racks at all.

The Rockler is much smoother on the release, but racks badly,

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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drsurfrat

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#11 posted 10-24-2020 12:00 PM

Robert – that’s not racking, that’s a “feature” for angled parts :)

-- Mike (near Boston) ... Laziness is the mother of invention, necessity is the mother of exhaustion - me

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Karda

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#12 posted 10-24-2020 09:47 PM

I buit a moxon vise on the side of my bench and this vice on the end

I use the moxon much more and when I do dove tails I will use it even more. The end vice I use for planing with bench dogs. Moxon vices are inexpensive and can be made so you can remove them from the bench when not in use. Search on utube for moxon vise builds

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AGolden

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#13 posted 10-26-2020 06:06 PM

I noticed lake Eerie tools carries some metal vises from Milwaukee Tool.

https://www.lakeerietoolworks.com/collections/metal-vise-kits

I have never seen half of these but I would love to get a face vise or tail vise kit if they are actually made in the USA. anyone have one? Can anyone verify their provenance. I can’t find them on the Milwaukee tool & Equipment Co website

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