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recycle1943

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10-19-2020 04:12 PM

This article in the paper really tripped my trigger.

https://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/2020/10/11/canton-city-schools-consider-relaxed-academics-athletes/5940798002/

basically it say the BOA is considering lowering the GPA for athletes from 2.0 to 1.5

I’m wondering why bother at all – if someone throws a football well or is able to dunk a basketball better than the next guy, just pass them on thru. Who needs an education anyway because if they make it to the big leagues they’ll get sevral million signing bonus and millions upon millions to play their game.

case closed !!

is there enough sarcasim or should I go on ?

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them


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#1 posted 10-19-2020 07:17 PM

I think all higher education schools have relaxed entry standards in all fields.

-- Wildwood by Brian Johns: The Big Bang: Nothing - exploded into Everything. Thanks to Nothing.

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#2 posted 10-19-2020 07:25 PM

probably but this is HIGH SCHOOL – where they are supposed to be learning enough to cope with the world

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them

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#3 posted 10-19-2020 07:32 PM

Much greater issue playing out than lowering the standards for athletes…doesn’t matter if they lower the GPA for athletes. If they are struggling to make a 2.0 lowering it isn’t going to make a difference in the “education” they are receiving. However participating in sports may help them at least be productive members of society. Can hope it puts them in contact with good adult role models and perhaps gives them some success in regards to working to achieve a goal, supporting others, etc…

Our public schools are in a no win situation with social problems we need to address, politicians trying to destroy it, and a greater class warfare going on. I am a firm believer (Republican) we need successful public schools for this country to really be great (not some fake political slogan).

Over 30 years ago I took a blow off class in high school… tutoring. I went to a local elementary school to help a couple boys with math, English, whatever. In truth I was there just to be decent person who cared. Addition and subtraction isn’t all that important to a kid that didn’t eat dinner the night before or breakfast. The fact one smelt so bad of urine because he wets the bed and wore the same clothes for multiple days a week is often more of concern than if they understand how to spell something. The fact these kids were talking about watching a funny man tell jokes (Eddie Murphy… Raw) further highlighted issues. I found out quickly that this was common place in several of the elementary schools in my home town. These schools bought washer and dryers to clean clothes, bought clothes to send home, sent left overs home when they could, and often sent groceries on the weekend. They all had something in common and were not like the public elementary school I went to up town (income and race). This was a city of roughly 30k people in Western KY. Not the crooked mismanaged Democratic big cities so many at the time talked about in my parent’s circle of friends. Not much has changed since then as frankly it takes money an effort and honestly those in power since the mid 80’s have not cared… 30 plus years and I see the same things in our local school systems.

We have bad teachers, bad schools, bad parents and we have good teachers, good schools, and good parents… more importantly we have a system that allows the two to be separated and stack the deck in a manner that many kids have no chance ever in life and unfortunately many Americans are fine with that.

My wife and I could have sent our kids (3) to private schools or we could have sent the kids across town to the next city whose public schools are essentially private schools based on how the city zoned and real estate prices. We didn’t go that route…it was important to me that my kids see not everyone comes from a dual income household with college educated parents. They can succeed and not because we made sure others failed.

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#4 posted 10-19-2020 07:35 PM

Have one more graduating this next year and then my youngest still has 5 years.

It will be interesting to see how things progress during that time but have watched many at the elementary school leave to other schools that don’t have the same “problems”.

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#5 posted 10-19-2020 07:45 PM

As I alluded to previously, why bother with a GPA. If we’re not going to teach anything like readin, ritin, and rithmatic, the gpa is but wasted ink on paper.

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them

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#6 posted 10-19-2020 07:51 PM

So much for standards ehh? I think the shock here is that it is being put down in writing, as a benchmark.

Anyone who has been paying attention knows for years that athletes, more so at the College level where that HUGE NCAA $$$$$$$ given to sports teams that win, have “assisted” the less scholastically oriented students along, so they may keep contributing to the bottom line.

Moving it downline to High Schools students is just addition to the overall decline in our world, especially in regard to schools, and what they are teaching the kids. I can remember when kids got their political, religious, and social, views at home from their parents.

I agree 1000% Dick, schools should only involve themselves with the teaching of the 3 R’s so kids can compete in a pretty cruel world on a scholastic level. Already gone in most cases are the shop classes where kids who probably aren’t destined to go to College could get a feel for the type of trade they may want to pursue. But evidently working a trade job, even if many pay 6 digit incomes, are NOT what these Millennial snots feel is [email protected]@L…...

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#7 posted 10-19-2020 08:26 PM

The High school where my wife taught Latin still has their weld shop and it’s going full steam ahead because of all the drilling in our state. There seem’s to be a large call certified welders because of that.

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them

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#8 posted 10-19-2020 08:40 PM

Always good to hear of any Shop class still going, they are probably one of the school systems greatest achievements, and now one of their biggest failings. Down here in Troy, it’s easier getting into Veterinary school, than welding classes at Hobart, or so I’ve been told. Thing is not enough qualifies places to get certification, or even experience to cover the need.

A large number of really educated idgits decided that ALL people had to go to College, and trade work was below an educated persons calling. Of course with a deficit of something like a half million, high paying, skilled labor, jobs, maybe it’s becoming apparent that someone screwed up closing the doors on so many shop classes.

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#9 posted 10-19-2020 08:49 PM

A college education is GREAT !! but somebody still has to build houses, cars, etc. and not everybody is college material.

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them

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#10 posted 10-19-2020 09:08 PM

Exactly..

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#11 posted 10-19-2020 09:17 PM

Today, even with a college education many of the graduates cannot even write a full paragraph without several grammatical errors. I majored in creative writing and history, and while assisting in grading papers of other students I found it extremely difficult to interpret their work. After asking them to read their paper to me, they couldn’t even read their own writing.
It saddens me that “WE”, by our own apathy, have allowed our elected officials to destroy our educational system. WE have only ourselves to hold responsible for the failures of our young. WE are responsible for leading them, not abdicating that authority and delegating it to others.

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#12 posted 10-19-2020 09:40 PM



Today, even with a college education many of the graduates cannot even write a full paragraph without several grammatical errors. I majored in creative writing and history, and while assisting in grading papers of other students I found it extremely difficult to interpret their work. After asking them to read their paper to me, they couldn t even read their own writing.
It saddens me that “WE”, by our own apathy, have allowed our elected officials to destroy our educational system. WE have only ourselves to hold responsible for the failures of our young. WE are responsible for leading them, not abdicating that authority and delegating it to others.

- mudflap4869

Very well said!!!

And also what Travis wrote!!!

-- Wildwood by Brian Johns: The Big Bang: Nothing - exploded into Everything. Thanks to Nothing.

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#13 posted 10-19-2020 10:23 PM

Maybe they are taking a progressive approach? Forgive me, didn’t read the whole article.

Instead of asking why are they letting them play sports while getting D’s, maybe they are focusing on getting the students grades up regardless of sports activities.

If the reason is solely based on getting good athletes on the field, I highly disagree.

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#14 posted 10-20-2020 12:32 AM

Sports is the biggest destroyer of education in this country. Many kids decide that they will get a pro contract and so there is no need to learn. My stepson had that idea, no matter what we did. His biological father told him otherwise. He is earning a living, but not what it could have been by starting a trade right out of high school. Union apprenticeships are a great education, almost free, and you get wages, pension, and health benefits while you learn, then for another 40+ years after that. And then you get to live on a fairly good pension that you have earned, added to social security which you also earned. Both are entitlements, but because you earned them. Not because they are given to you like many today try to claim. If schools spent the sports money on education, we would have a great educational system. I worked on many school projects where classrooms were secondary to the gyms, girl houses, and sports fields. Bring back the shop and home ec classes. Real life skills, not dreams.

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#15 posted 10-20-2020 02:36 AM

This has been coming for years, not getting political but it matters who you vote for; might check who votes for whom.

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