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scrooched_moose

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10-16-2020 10:37 AM

Topic tags/keywords: planer dw735 question

After just getting my DW735 back from a way-too-expensive trip to the service center, I’m seriously considering whether it’s worth keeping. Nearly $200 for some bad electrical connections which apparently “weren’t a defect”, on top of 3 other trips this year for other tools which fell apart after some light use. Maybe I’m just unlucky, but I’m very disappointed in DeWalt’s reliability right now.

I can’t decide whether it’s worth keeping the 735 and upgrading it to a Shelix head, or dumping the thing on Craigslist and upgrading to something like the Grizzly G0453 (I haven’t done any serious shopping at the higher end yet, but it was the first to catch my eye).

The 735 more than met my needs, but I’m struggling to justify a $500 upgrade if it’s just going to die again in 6 months.

Any thoughts or input?


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TechTeacher04

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#1 posted 10-16-2020 11:55 AM

Ask yourself the following questions, Do I have the space? Can I afford it? Will it pay for itself in work done and easing your worries?

I was in the same spot and bought a G1033X that is being delivered today. These are special times with Covid and I decided that for my sanity I needed something to be excited about. Good luck

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Fred Hargis

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#2 posted 10-16-2020 12:28 PM

To the question about upgrading: I would say YES! But that’s me and the stuff i do. I always buy rough sawn lumber so I usually wind up doing a fair amount of planing. The stationary planer can run all day without breaking a sweat and it’s hugely more quiet. Then of course it does take 240V power, and you might have to do something with your DC if it’s not quite as muscular. I’m not knocking the 735, it’s a great unit…but it’s still technically a “bench top” planer and doesn’t have the wherewithal of a stationary unit. As to that Griz, unit….I have no fear of Grizzly products, and had great CS from them on the one thing I bought. Others have horror stories, so it’s a personal choice and you will probably find widely varying opinions.

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#3 posted 10-16-2020 01:14 PM

I have thought about upgrading my 735 to a Shelix type head. I did not do it and am using Infinity blades. For the work I do , I just can not justify it. I only rarely work with highly figured wood.

I also have a 15”. 3 hp planer and do not use it very much. I really dislike the serrated infeed rollers and the marks they make.

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CWWoodworking

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#4 posted 10-16-2020 10:14 PM

I don’t think it would be much of an up grade other than durability.

Since you already sunk the money into fixing it, I’d say get your moneys worth out of it.

Which tools have given you trouble? Overall DeWalt has exceeded my expectations of durability. And I abuse the crap out of them.

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#5 posted 10-16-2020 10:44 PM

I miss having a Dewalt planer it’s a great machine for small thin panels. I’ve been hand planing thin stuff because my Pm hh head just eats up anything less then 3/16.
The blades you buy for the 735 have a 45 degree bevel.
Here’s a simple fixture for sharpening them.

Good Luck

-- Aj

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#6 posted 10-17-2020 11:36 AM

I can’t understand 4 service trips in a year for a DW735 unless you’ve got a very poor product from Dewalt or a complete Booger of a service tech. Mine sees pretty frequent use, I 99% only buy rough timber and mill all of my own stock as a hobbyist with a part-time business. I’ve changed the bolts over to the Torx screws and put in many blades but have never had a problem with the unit.

If you’re doing the volume of figured woods and a shelix makes sense then I’d say go with the Griz, but if you’re “all good” with the DW735, then perhaps consider dumping your existing repaired unit on CL and getting another one that might break whatever curse you’re under…

-- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it

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Craftsman on the lake

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#7 posted 10-17-2020 12:04 PM

So, question…..
I’ve got a DW 734. It’s been great and I’ve put thousands of bf of wood through it the past ten years with no issues. I’ve only ever bought rough lumber because it’s less expensive, because I have a planer, and even the S4S stuff is often not straight and you’ve got to flatten/straighten it anyway so it ends up being less than nominal thickness.

The plane has worked wonderfully. The wood is smooth and flat and little to no snipe. The blades are reversible and not expensive and last a pretty long time. With all of that, what is the reason people spring for shelix blades? They are pretty expensive and must dull over time or nick when you hit something. What’s the draw?

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#8 posted 10-17-2020 12:20 PM

our first 735 was a lemon, had issues after both trips on return, they finally coughed up another, we use it for small stuff, i have a larger 15 inch, we call her hot momma, she planes fast and easy, std blades in both, goal is one day to perhaps go to the fancier cutters, time will tell, also use a metal detector on questionable wood, it has saved quite a few blades.
the 735 is sweet when its on it game, simple and easy to operate. I can remember the days when i was doing it without one, ugly for sure, or maybe i was just too lazy to hand plane.
best of luck with selection, as noted i have a larger 15 inch heavy and very functional.
Rj in az

-- Living the dream

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Craftsman on the lake

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#9 posted 10-17-2020 12:27 PM

If I remember, didn’t they have some gear or drive issues in early 735’s ? I remember people here talking about having to disassemble it to institute a parts replacement.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#10 posted 10-17-2020 12:38 PM



So, question…..
I ve got a DW 734. It s been great and I ve put thousands of bf of wood through it the past ten years with no issues. I ve only ever bought rough lumber because it s less expensive, because I have a planer, and even the S4S stuff is often not straight and you ve got to flatten/straighten it anyway so it ends up being less than nominal thickness.

The plane has worked wonderfully. The wood is smooth and flat and little to no snipe. The blades are reversible and not expensive and last a pretty long time. With all of that, what is the reason people spring for shelix blades? They are pretty expensive and must dull over time or nick when you hit something. What s the draw?

- Craftsman on the lake

It sounds like the Shelix isn’t right for you. But as I recall the 734 has self indexing knives (?) making them easy to set. With a lot of other planers that isn’t the case, and getting the knives adjusted can be a (very) tedious task. Then there’s the matter of noise. With knives on my Delta 15” and a strong DC, the howl was so loud it was the only tool in the shop where I had to wear my shooting ear muffs. With the Shelix I don’t worry about setting knives, and I wear the same ear plugs I use on my other tools. As for cutting edge life, I bought my Planer’s Shelix in 2009 and I’ve rotated the inserts once, truth is I probably didn’t need too…but they will almost certainly outlast me. In that same time I would have probably went through 3 knife changes (about $45 a pop to sharpen them). But back to the noise. Even if the other advantages don’t sway you, just the reduction in noise is enough reason to buy one, IMHO. But like I said, if you’re happy without one don’t fix what ain’t broke!

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#11 posted 10-17-2020 02:11 PM

Sounds like you got a lemon from DeWalt. That aside, I can only vouch for my complete satisfaction on the Shelix upgrade to my 735. Very pleased with the performance, especially on highly figured wood. Put one on my 6 inch Jet jointer and that works great as well.

-- Don't let perfection get in the way of plenty good enough

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Craftsman on the lake

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#12 posted 10-17-2020 02:29 PM


So, question…..
I ve got a DW 734. It s been great and I ve put thousands of bf of wood through it the past ten years with no issues. I ve only ever bought rough lumber because it s less expensive, because I have a planer, and even the S4S stuff is often not straight and you ve got to flatten/straighten it anyway so it ends up being less than nominal thickness.

The plane has worked wonderfully. The wood is smooth and flat and little to no snipe. The blades are reversible and not expensive and last a pretty long time. With all of that, what is the reason people spring for shelix blades? They are pretty expensive and must dull over time or nick when you hit something. What s the draw?

- Craftsman on the lake

It sounds like the Shelix isn t right for you. But as I recall the 734 has self indexing knives (?) making them easy to set. With a lot of other planers that isn t the case, and getting the knives adjusted can be a (very) tedious task. Then there s the matter of noise. With knives on my Delta 15” and a strong DC, the howl was so loud it was the only tool in the shop where I had to wear my shooting ear muffs. With the Shelix I don t worry about setting knives, and I wear the same ear plugs I use on my other tools. As for cutting edge life, I bought my Planer s Shelix in 2009 and I ve rotated the inserts once, truth is I probably didn t need too…but they will almost certainly outlast me. In that same time I would have probably went through 3 knife changes (about $45 a pop to sharpen them). But back to the noise. Even if the other advantages don t sway you, just the reduction in noise is enough reason to buy one, IMHO. But like I said, if you re happy without one don t fix what ain t broke!

- Fred Hargis

I see.. I’ve rotated knives once on two sets of blades in 10 years. I’d estimate about… maybe… 2000-3000 bd ft of wood??? The knives cost me $16 at Lowes.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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Sark

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#13 posted 10-17-2020 03:10 PM

I’ve run my 735 for 10 years or so. But had to replace the rollers because they had gotten hard and didn’t pull as well. I got frustrated with constantly adjusting/changing the blades, because they would get easily get nicked. Blades weren’t that expensive, but it’s annoying and requires another pass of the planer to get out the marks. And I lost confidence that wood would make it through without marking.

Then 2 or 3 years ago, I installed a set of solid carbide blades (forget from whom) and they’ve been great with thousands of feet of planing. My only problem with them is that the machine is just as loud as before, and the noise of the DeWalt planer is really intense. So now thinking about upgrading to a segmented unit to reduce the noise.

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Fred Hargis

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#14 posted 10-17-2020 03:47 PM

I see.. I ve rotated knives once on two sets of blades in 10 years. I d estimate about… maybe… 2000-3000 bd ft of wood??? The knives cost me $16 at Lowes.

- Craftsman on the lake

I wasn’t trying to justify the cost, just offering my opinion to your question. If I tried to justify everything on cost, I wouldn’t have a wood shop.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#15 posted 10-17-2020 04:53 PM

Which tools have given you trouble? Overall DeWalt has exceeded my expectations of durability. And I abuse the crap out of them.

- CWWoodworking

  • 618 router bearings failed which took the motor with them
  • 682K Joiner blade was misaligned by 3/16” out of the box (warrantied)
  • Miter saw (forget exactly which model…I don’t have it anymore) had a cracked fence. Looked like a casting defect. Out of warranty and replaced from an online parts supplier.

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