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10-14-2020 09:06 PM

Hey All,

I recently acquired a 1933 Walker Turner Model 124 Lathe. The headstock and tailstock turn, but are quite stiff. Should the bearings be replaced, or is there a manner in which I can expose them and grease them to alleviate the issue?

Thanks a lot,

Greg

Also, if someone has a cut-sheet and parts list for this lathe, I would appreciate access to it.


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#1 posted 10-14-2020 09:24 PM

if they’re just difficult to turn but otherwise smooth, you might be able to remove them, clean them (you’ll want to clean them), then repack and see.

If they’re at all rough, then you’ll want to junk and replace, which seems more likely to me. I often try cleaning and repacking bearings if I can, but I’d say at most 1 out of every 10 or so is actually usable. Usually once I get it cleaned up, I give it a spin and find that the races are heavily worn and no good anymore

I don’t have a parts sheet or bearing numbers, but http://www.vintagemachinery.org/ will be your friend :-)

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#2 posted 10-15-2020 03:14 AM

Sorry I don’t have it. :-(

Can see ‘Bug hunter’ already posted this same question on OWWM.org?
If that crowd does not have the dirty paper you seek, will be hard to find someone that does.

Be sure to give the OWWM forum members time to think and search their files. Have seen documents magically appear months after a thread asks for help.

Best Luck.

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#3 posted 10-15-2020 01:12 PM

Thanks a lot guys. I’ll keep my eyes on the two forums and see if/what shows up.

Have a great weekend,

Greg

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#4 posted 10-23-2020 07:12 PM

Hey Guys,

A bit of an update. I posted this over at OWWM also, so if you’ve seen it there, feel free to ignore it here. The spindle on this 1933 WT lathe is 1/2-inch, 24 PTI, not too standard. Does not look like we will be obtaining a mass-produced spindle adapter. No problem, I’ll just proceed with a face plate and working between the centers. Before that happens, I would like to do a bit of work on the headstock to obtain a free spinning spindle. It does not turn freely, there is a bit of a hang-up. Got a bit of it apart, but I am at a dead end. I can see one of the bearings, but cannot figure out how to pull the rest of it apart. Any chance that I can just lube up what’s there, and give it all a new life? I’ve attached a few photos along with what I believe is a section of the headstock from some of the original lather literature. Any insight/advice would be appreciated.

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#5 posted 10-23-2020 08:12 PM

I would try to get it apart and replace the bearings with some new sealed ones. You could try to clean and re-pack in place if you want to take that risk, but it’s probably not worth it since you already have it this far apart. If it’s like most, the spindle needs to be tapped from outboard to the inboard side, which I believe would be right to left in the picture above. Just make sure there are no retaining clips or set screws holding it up and go easy.

As for the spindle size – no problem – just go get you a thread tap for that size and make as many attachments you want for free. Threaded glue blocks, mandrels, jamb chucks, sanding discs, polishing cones, etc…

Cheers,
Brad

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#6 posted 10-24-2020 01:53 AM

I tried to push the spindle thru from the outboard side with a home-made press, but no go, just bent the top plate of the press, The spindle has threads on it inside of where the bearing adjuster threads on, and the casing also has threads on the inside. But…...I see nothing that I can turn to remove that will be holding things up. I guess I’ll try a little brute force tomorrow with a 4lb dead-blow. ‘

Unless someone has a better idea.

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#7 posted 10-26-2020 12:54 AM

Soaked it overnight in ATF/acetone, hit it a few times with a big hammer, and nothing. No movement. Back in to soak another night. Any other ideas?

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