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10-13-2020 02:23 PM

Topic tags/keywords: miter box hand saw stanley

I’m currently refurbing my grandfather’s Stanley 2246 Miter Box. They seemed to have used non-standard fasteners.

The big thumbscrews on the back that hold the metal bars to hold the work against the fence use a 1/4” fastener, but it is not 1/4-20 nor 1/4-28. I didn’t bother checking what the thread count was since I had to drill out a broken bolt a re-tap the hole anyway and I only had one of those two options in my tapping kit.

However, the part that swings to different angles has some holes that are 10-28. Those screws are long gone and I have to find some way attaching the lever.

10-28 is not something you can just hop on down to the local hardware store and find. Well, actually it is. I just had to look in the plumbing section. Apparently some bib screws are 10-28. But since they are for holding handles onto valve stems, they are only 3/8” long.

Neither McMaster-Carr nor Grainger carry anything like that. Any other ideas on where to look for non-standard fasteners for less than $5 apiece? Anyone know of any place that makes custom stuff like this?

-- Tony, SW Chicago Suburbs


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#1 posted 10-13-2020 02:44 PM

Some older cars had 1/4-24 screws. The fillister head type screws. I’ve had to buy some for some classics i’ve restored. Think i even have tap and dies.

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#2 posted 10-13-2020 03:09 PM

Stanley is notorious for non-standard screws. I looked for a long time and found what you did, bib screw for a faucet handle at 10-28. (In my case, a No 78 depth stop). I would have liked to find a longer one with a thumbscrew head – yea, right. At least it worked.

Custom screws will cost you much more thank $5 apiece. There is a seller on eBay that sells single screws for Stanley tools at ridiculous prices.

I think the only chance you have is if you need a bunch, then it might be possible to find a die and cut your own.

I have many extra parts for Stanley planes and tools, so if you (or anyone reading this) needs something, let me see if I can help.

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#3 posted 10-13-2020 06:52 PM

Look at the topic Miter Box of Your Dreams

Lot of expertise there.

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#4 posted 10-13-2020 07:00 PM

How many 10-28 screws do you need? Do you know the length you need and the type of head you need on it? If you know all of that, I can probably turn them for you.

-- I collect hobbies. There is no sense in limiting yourself (Don W) - - - - - - - - Kenny in SW VA

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#5 posted 10-13-2020 07:03 PM

A quick google shows that you can get them by the boatload at Fastanal in all shapes, sizes and material. There are a few other places that turn up as well. Quick look showed a stainless steel 1/4×28 2.5” hex socket bolt at about $0.67 a piece.

Cheers,
Brad

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#6 posted 10-13-2020 07:04 PM

+1 Miter box of your Dreams thread.

Don’t play with miter boxes, but Stanley used 12-20 on hand plane handles/frogs.
Looks and feels like 1/4-20, but it is not.
St James Bay use to offer a tap/die set. Was often listed on fleabay.

Cheers!

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#7 posted 10-13-2020 07:07 PM



How many 10-28 screws do you need? Do you know the length you need and the type of head you need on it? If you know all of that, I can probably turn them for you.

- HokieKen

I’ll keep that in mind. I bought a bunch of the bibb screws, so I’ll see what I can do with them. If I can’t get them to work, I’ll probably contact you. Thanks.

-- Tony, SW Chicago Suburbs

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#8 posted 10-13-2020 07:09 PM



A quick google shows that you can get them by the boatload at Fastanal in all shapes, sizes and material. There are a few other places that turn up as well. Quick look showed a stainless steel 1/4×28 2.5” hex socket bolt at about $0.67 a piece.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

Those are all 1/4”. Too big for what I need. I thought about drilling the holes out and re-tapping with the next larger “regular” size (12-24 or 12-28).

-- Tony, SW Chicago Suburbs

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#9 posted 10-13-2020 07:30 PM


Those are all 1/4”. Too big for what I need. I thought about drilling the holes out and re-tapping with the next larger “regular” size (12-24 or 12-28).

- Tony1212

If you chase those holes with a 12-28 tap, you probably won’t even need to drill them out. That’s your cheapest and easiest solution if you aren’t intent on keeping the box original.

-- I collect hobbies. There is no sense in limiting yourself (Don W) - - - - - - - - Kenny in SW VA

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