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Redoak49

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09-29-2020 10:32 PM

This topic has been mentioned a number of times but only with verbal backing for the information. I have been submitting question to Porter Cable for a number of weeks and finally got the following response.


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fivecodys

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#1 posted 09-29-2020 10:41 PM

:(

-- A bad day woodworking is still better than a good day working.

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#2 posted 09-29-2020 10:43 PM

Dear DeWalt:. Thanks for nothing. Scrap and Decker strikes again. Trash PC, then probably raise prices. Another American company that cares not at all for it’s customers.

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#3 posted 09-29-2020 11:26 PM


Dear DeWalt:.
- ibewjon

What does Dewalt have to do with this?

This stuff happens when companies get too big for there britches. Don’t get too attached.

PC was probably not the most healthiest of companies. Cut the fat and move on.

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#4 posted 09-29-2020 11:59 PM

Stanley has a long history of discontinuing poorly selling products. Stanley and B&D merged and own a whole bunch of brands including pro-line DeWalt, which gets the patented design features, pro-sumer brand P-C and obviously B&D is the homeowner line. Since P-C was once a direct pro brand competitor with DeWalt, the company is looking for ways to sell DeWalt products on top-line quality without wrecking the P-C reputation for quality.

I have some 5-6 year old P-C cordless stuff and it’s fine, for example lacking a battery power indicator on the drill, having a plastic guard on the saw, and an un-adjustable foot on the reciprocating saw. It’s good stuff but DeWalt has those added features on the equivalent kit.

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#5 posted 09-30-2020 12:10 AM

Sorry. Dewalt is just a part of scrap and Decker. They buy good companies, then gut out profits, parking the money overseas, then shut down parts of them. Then the parts we need become unavailable, forcing us to buy their new tools. I have seen many large companies buy a competitor, lay off workers, steal the pension money. Tear down the factory so there can be no more competion. A senator from Utah and a former gov from Illinois got rich doing that. Am I bitter, yes. I didn’t loose my job directly, but many friends did.

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CWWoodworking

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#6 posted 09-30-2020 12:26 AM

Ibewjon,

The “import, close American factories, jobs gone” ship sailed a long time ago for All these companies. All this stuff is imported and has been for a long time.

In fact the only thing I’ve seen assembled in the US is Dewalts drill package. Could be others I guess, haven’t seen anything else though.

Dewalt/ryobi seen where business was going and invested huge with there battery platform. And I bet it’s paid off big time.

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therealSteveN

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#7 posted 09-30-2020 01:34 AM

With so many companies today putting out good tools, it’s time to kiss the old standby’s goodbye, and let B$D have it’s market share of “Homeowner” level junk. Sad when a company with so many great old names let’s Harbor Freight wax it’s line of tools.

For those unsure of who owns who, I believe this list is current, but they swap and trade so often, it’s hard to say for certain.

https://www.protoolreviews.com/news/power-tool-manufacturers-who-owns-them/43632/

-- Think safe, be safe

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#8 posted 09-30-2020 02:21 AM

They turned it into junk that nobody wanted to buy, then had no choice but to discontinue it. Hilarious.

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#9 posted 09-30-2020 03:06 AM

SMP, I’d disagree with you. It’s sad. Just the other day Remington sold off a ton of things in their bankruptcy. The were bought by a conglomerate who gutted their quality and engineering which led to this sell off.

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#10 posted 10-01-2020 02:13 AM



SMP, I d disagree with you. It s sad. Just the other day Remington sold off a ton of things in their bankruptcy. The were bought by a conglomerate who gutted their quality and engineering which led to this sell off.

- BurlyBob

similar to Hostess cupcakes…

-- Desert_Woodworker

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CWWoodworking

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#11 posted 10-01-2020 02:17 AM


similar to Hostess cupcakes…

- Desert_Woodworker

Has the quality of hostess dropped????

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therealSteveN

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#12 posted 10-01-2020 04:07 AM

I don’t know if this is new? Or Leigh has had it a while, and I just saw it, but I had an email from Leigh tonight about them making a dust collection support for the PC DT jigs.

https://www.leightools.com/vrs1200-vacuum-router-support-features/

Tools that were long held as some of the best won’t go to seed just because a Parent company is incapable of doing business. Hopefully a company will save the 690’s, 5201, and 7539 routers from extinction.

-- Think safe, be safe

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therealSteveN

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#13 posted 10-01-2020 04:08 AM


Has the quality of hostess dropped????

- CWWoodworking

Is that one of them Oxymoron’s?

-- Think safe, be safe

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#14 posted 10-01-2020 05:52 AM

Thank you RedOak49 for the info on Porter Cables’ discountinuation of certain models. In the last few years. I’ve purchased several PC benchtop equipment, primarily because of their past reputation of reliability. Got me thinking, should I consider PC for another tool purchase. I have two Delta planers, Delta have added a couple equipment models. But Delta problem is reputation of parts availability it needed.

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#15 posted 10-01-2020 06:23 AM

PC was great at a few things, circ saws and routers mostly, B&D should have stuck with that instead of trying to turn into another brand for cheap cordless, drill presses, and other junk from china.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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