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Robert

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09-29-2020 04:29 PM

Anyone have any success with it regarding making stupid, no, moronic mistakes? How about safety?

I’ve already quit doing anything after 8, thinking I don’t want to take a chance on Sundowner.

I’m 64, I would consider myself above avg in intelligence.

I consider myself an expert at fixing mistakes, which makes me a good craftsman, but just once, I would like to walk 25 feet to my miter saw and not have to throw something away.

Or sit there wondering why tools seem to disappear into the ether.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!


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987Ron

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#1 posted 09-29-2020 05:00 PM

try 82 or is it 81, forgot

-- It's not a mistake it's a design opportunity

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#2 posted 09-29-2020 07:17 PM

Everyone’s brain is different. Some fail earlier than others. I’m 79 and still functioning well although do have a problem recalling names at times….had that problem forever.

My Dr. says the only know way to stimulate the brain is to kepp active and use it. Prevagen is just another product made by the Snake Oil people.

Just do a little more “double checking” before you cut.

-- Les B, Oregon

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AMZ

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#3 posted 09-29-2020 07:42 PM

I will be 68 tomorrow and your best action to to stay active. Tired of being in the shop? Go read for a while! In any case, don’t resign your life to an easy chair!

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Aj2

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#4 posted 09-29-2020 09:01 PM

I also make stupid mistakes I’ve tried to leave myself notes. Every once in a while I find piece of wood that I wrote save. I have no idea what my notes mean or why I’m saving small scraps of wood.
I blame it all on chemical trails in the sky or too many Greatful Dead shows. :)
Good Luck always

-- Aj

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NotThatJeff

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#5 posted 09-29-2020 09:23 PM

Hi Robert,

I’m 57 (took me 20 seconds to work that out..) and I recently started having weird memory and cognitive issues. (Abruptly feeling confused and realizing I’m about to pour cream into the coffee filter, or not knowing which “stuff” to put on my toothbrush.) In my case, it seems to be a problem with very short term (“working”) memory.

One thing to look into if you haven’t already is sleep apnea. My symptoms (which feel distinctly different from normal senior moments) seemed to start after I went on a month vacation without my CPAP machine. The initial test for sleep apnea involves sleeping one night with a pulse oximiter clamped on your finger. My O2 was dropping down into the low 80’s (should be over 90) when I took the test.

I knew I had sleep apnea b/c I shared a room with a colleague on a business trip and he said he thought I was choking to death all night long. And trying to fall asleep was grueling b/c the choking kept waking me up.

So consider if you might have sleep apnea. Especially (although not exclusively) if you are a bit on the heavy side.

Whatever the cause, I’ve found it good to be detached but very aware of the nature of these changes. IOW, don’t freak out or obsess about it, but constantly ask yourself how you would describe each particular episode or weird experience. Write it down. This makes it a tiny bit more likely that when you communicate with a doctor they will a) know that you are serious about your concern and b) possibly recognize a pattern.

More specifically, each and every time you notice something strange of frustrating “happen”, ask yourself if it could possibly pose a safety risk. When I use a table saw or drive, for example, I know exactly what all the dangerous aspects of the situation is and never waver from that. (It’s when I’m relaxed and in familiar situations that my mind slips up.) I do make wrong turns even within a block of my house, but that doesn’t pose a safety threat. If I ever notice something that might be dangerous, it’s time to make some changes.

Anyway, sorry to hear about your concerns and good luck to you. Hope this helps, even if just to know that someone else can relate.

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ibewjon

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#6 posted 09-29-2020 10:54 PM

Not dismissing a possible medical problem, but the only person that doesn’t make stupid mistakes is the one that doesn’t do anything. We all make them, old or young. Definitely check on your sleep.

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Karda

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#7 posted 09-30-2020 03:13 AM

I second everything, I have epilepsy I have had it since child hood. Epilepsy causes cognitive disfunction as does many of the drugs used to control it. So i was living with forgetfulness and confusion all my life. but when i hit my 60s I began old age forgetfulness. I have a bad habit of evaluating major purchases by how long I will be sable to do it. But i try not to do that that Is almost as bad as quitting. Keep on doing what you are doing but be aware of your surroundings and paranoid about where your finger are around saws. To put a point on it don’t cripple yourself

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Madmark2

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#8 posted 09-30-2020 07:01 PM

I’ve made just about every mistake you can make in the shop short of cutting off critical bits. Hard lessons are the ones you learn the most from.

For the older worker the best investment you can make is MORE LIGHT! It’s what you can’t see that bites you.

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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Karda

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#9 posted 09-30-2020 07:52 PM

definitely plenty of light

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Bstrom

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#10 posted 09-30-2020 08:11 PM

I don’t have the liability of having to defend any level of intelligence, which makes me equal to anyone on fixing mistakes. But, I agree late hours can be a danger to anyone. If we have a clear idea of what we’re trying to accomplish we are less likely to flub badly. Allows more attention to use proper methods – not madness – and a safer work period.

-- Bstrom

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#11 posted 09-30-2020 08:40 PM

I studied the research behind people making mistakes, and about the only thing different between a trained beginner and an expert is that the expert makes fewer mistakes. In the case I looked at, it was for computer programmers. I’m going to pick up a book about mindfulness, once I remember to stop by the book store. Maybe I’ll read about it online before I cough up money for a book.

-- Steven.......Random Orbital Nailer

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#12 posted 09-30-2020 10:19 PM

More light is 2x what you useta need!

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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Aj2

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#13 posted 09-30-2020 10:53 PM

I’ve found there’s two different kinds of mistakes I make woodworking.
One is a slip of the hand
The other is a slip of the mind both are acceptable because they happen as a natural human defect.
Only the ones that are fatal to the build or the human unacceptable.
Some of my stupid mental mistakes have lead me down a path that I’ve found a nice surprise.
So can not say that it was wrong.

That’s all from me sorry for getting heavy

Good Luck

-- Aj

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CWWoodworking

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#14 posted 10-01-2020 12:48 AM

Most of my mistakes happen very close to the 7-8th hour of work. WW is mentally taxing. Dimensions, joinery all swirling around on top of worrying if it’s gonna look right. It took me awhile to acclimate to focusing for 8 hrs/day.

I’m busy as h3!! Right now so working 10/11 hr days. The last couple hours are rough.

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#15 posted 10-01-2020 10:22 AM

sam maloof said in an interview that every piece he ever made has a mistake in it

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