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Forum topic by weedeater64 posted 09-23-2020 10:54 PM 367 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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weedeater64

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09-23-2020 10:54 PM

Looking for some decent saws under $100 bucks.

I have currently one 9 1/2” ryoba and one 7” ryoba. Both are Gyokucho. They are OK I guess. Haven’t really used the small one to speak of yet. Best use for the larger one so far is for cutting tenon cheeks. I have difficulty cutting wide crosscuts with it, keeping it straight.

I have and old panel saw, I thing 22”. Not sure how to measure correctly. I need to spend more time sharpening it. It was poorly ground for crosscut, now I’ve ground for rip, poorly. lol. I think I can get there, just need to spend some time. 8 tpi.

I have a frame saw similar to Grandpa Amu on Youtube I made with 1/2” Harbor Freight bandsaw. It is rip and does OK for general saw. About 20” of blade.

I should have a gent’s saw from Gramercy in the mail tomorrow. 10” with 16 tpi steel backed budget saw.

What I think I want next is a decent tenon saw on the large side, 14” min. and a good rip saw, like 4 tpi.

Been searching for a rip saw forever used at flea markets and such. I give up.

Not looking for collector items, decent users is what I need for a reasonable price.

What do?


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SMP

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#1 posted 09-23-2020 11:19 PM

Well Spear & Jackson had nice panel saws for around $40 until Paul Sellers blogged about them, they went on backorder and bow just say unavailable. The PAX are also nice but slightly more than $100.
For Tenon under $100 can also look at Lynx or Pax, but for around $140, the Veritas is a good one although it looks unconventional

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cmacnaughton

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#2 posted 09-24-2020 12:21 AM

Depends on what you’re using them for and how comfortable you are rehabbing and sharpening. The Veritas joinery saws are great and most are under $100. I have.a Lie-Nielsen tenon saw which is nice but costs considerably more. I have several panel saws both rip and crosscut filed. All are vintage Disstons and I didn’t pay more than $7 for any of them individually at various junk shops and estate sales. All needed to be cleaned up and sharpened, but that’s how I learned how to sharpen saws.

-- –Chuck M. Nutmegger by choice

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SMP

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#3 posted 09-24-2020 12:28 AM

Yeah if you want old used saws to practice sharpening I usually find old panel saws at habitat ReStore for about $3 each, usually 1950s-ish disstons and warranted etc

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Axis39

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#4 posted 09-24-2020 12:55 AM

I do 95% of my handsaw with with a 2 sided dozuki and a Suizan crosscut that has a back on it. It depends on what you like… Lotta guys don’t like pull saws, but I find them easier to use for most things.

I think this is the dozuki I own.

And, this is the backed crosscut saw I use. I guess they call it a dovetail saw.

I have a couple of old Disstons and a few old Craftsmans (made by Disston) that I inherited from Pops and Granddad. I very, very rarely pull them out.

I’ve found a lot of quality ‘vintage’ tools on eBay… Mostly old planes. But, i’ve seena lot of saws and such there as well.

-- John F. SoCal transplant, chewer uppper of good wood

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#5 posted 09-24-2020 04:34 PM

I’m with Axis39, I tried a pull saw and now only take my western saws out to admire them. I have Vaughn and Bushnell, but made in Japan. $35. I keep a new one for fine cuts and a previous one for hacking. I use the 2-sided Ryoba style for just about everything including tenons, even some panel resawing. It leaves a much cleaner surface, too. Just remember to be gentle on the push…
example: https://www.amazon.com/Vaughan-BS250D-Double-Edged-Handsaw/dp/B00004Z2X8
I will never try to sharpen one of these: :)

-- Mike (near Boston) ... Laziness is the mother of invention, necessity is the mother of exhaustion - me

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bandit571

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#6 posted 09-24-2020 05:02 PM

Disston 10ppi, 20” long panel saw

And..for the larger stuff..

Disston D-115 Cross cut, 26”, 8ppi, and the Disston D8 Rip, 28”, 5-1/2ppi
For the joinery side…

Disston No. 68 Dovetail saw, and a Disston No.4 backsaw, 14”, 9ppi filed rip.

Have a Bishop No. 10 on the way back to my shop…

Has been cleaned up, currently out for a Sharpening Service….fine tooth edge was worn out, coarse needed worked….Patent date is from 1908….will see how it works in about..a week…

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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metolius

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#7 posted 09-24-2020 05:56 PM

I have 4 Disston’s picked up from moving sales a long while back that needed attention. I restored one within the first year, jointed the 2nd a bit later but haven’t gotten back to it since then. Its super easy to underestimate restoration work.

Ryoba saws are thin. Sometimes it thins from the handle to to the tip. Without a straight pull from wrist to elbow, its easy to wander. Still, its my personal preference for some medium sized tasks. Because the saw pulls, it won’t buckle. The kerf doesn’t need to be as thick as a western saw.

A Kataba has a stiffer/thicker blade; as a pull saw, Its worth considering. Both a cross and rip could be had for < $100.

-- derek / oregon

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