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Forum topic by trsnider posted 09-01-2020 07:09 PM 645 views 0 times favorited 29 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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trsnider

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09-01-2020 07:09 PM

#1. I don’t know why it’s in my cabinet (going to throw it out) -and anything else that resembles it.

#2. My daughter in law liked the color – it’s for a desk I’m making my grandchild.

#3. Don’t know why I agreed to this finish (see #2?)

As far as I can tell I’m applying it according to the can directions. Brushing it on—leaves streaks that don’t level out. The shade is American Chestnut which as far as I can tell has been discontinued.

I’ve read some of the other posts. I may try thinning it some. Wiping on and off seemed to be a bit better if I get to wiping it off before it gets sticky. Then 2 coats are required. My wife (QC department manager) and says the shades don’t match my sample board.

So maybe the can has gone belly up I need to check the stamp (assuming it has one). Maybe diluting it a bit, wiping on and off is the answer.

But no matter what I HATE THIS STREAKY GOOPY DARK MESS OF STUFF. I REFUSE TO WORK WITH IT ANYMORE.

Thanks I do feel better! :)

I almost forgot:

#4. Applicators fault. (As it usually is :) :) )


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#1 posted 09-01-2020 07:18 PM

It used to be a way to skip a step in a hurry by mixing some stain in some poly. I am old fashioned an prefer two coats of stain (if needed) and putting three coats of finish on. That polyshades stuff can take a walk. I am with you on this one.

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#2 posted 09-01-2020 07:18 PM

Been there as well.

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AlaskaGuy

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#3 posted 09-01-2020 07:25 PM

That is a very good thing to hate!

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Fred Hargis

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#4 posted 09-01-2020 07:55 PM

You have absolutely nailed this one with your dislike.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#5 posted 09-01-2020 08:00 PM

I have no experience with it, but it seems to me that the only way a product like that would be successful would be to spray it. As a spray, I can see it being effective where you need to blend some lighter and darker areas.

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trsnider

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#6 posted 09-01-2020 08:01 PM

Thinning 1 parts mineral spirits to 5 parts stain improved brushing/wiping application immensely. QC says shade is alright.

However it’s still Going to be tossed after this.

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#7 posted 09-01-2020 08:09 PM

I learned the hard way about poly shades years ago Check out Charles Neil videos on YouTube.

-- https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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#8 posted 09-01-2020 08:17 PM

I’ve used it fine before, used a brush. 4 coats took care of what I needed to.

I think people just use PolyShades with the wrong expectations. You expect a stain-poly mix because that’s how they word it, but it’s really not what PolyShades is. It’s more a pigment, not a dye, so use it accordingly. Pretend it’s like a polyurethane based paint, and it’ll be a lot better (as long as it’s fresh).

I used black PolyShades on some shelves instead of painting them. Wanted the grain texture but all black. It worked great for that for me. No issues brushing it on when it was fresh, and after 4 coats there was no trace of the wood color underneath, which is exactly what was desired.

If what you want is a stain protected by polyurethane, then stain and coat with polyurethane, you’ll be much happier. I think the biggest screw up with PolyShades is their marketing team using the term “stain” as a selling point, because it’s something that not many people truly understand correctly

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#9 posted 09-01-2020 08:56 PM

Sorry to hear you got misdirected in the finishing supplies aisle. I think you are among good company though. Minwax and low performing products, are without a lot of difference in my vocabulary.

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#10 posted 09-01-2020 09:06 PM

And..here I use Minwax stuff all the time, have for decades. I tried the polyshades once, tossed the remaining pint out, and went back to stain then varnish.

Have tried the Varathane….once…..tossed that as well…..Rustoleum even has a few items…tossed after one session…

I usually just use a brush….not set up to do spray….don’t care to, either.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#11 posted 09-01-2020 09:19 PM

+1 Everything from MinWax stinks.
Sherwin Williams (SW) got duped when they bought Minwax.

Polyshades is embarrassing thing to put on wood, and should be banned.
Wipe on poly is mostly solvent, and streaks badly in warm/dry environments.
Stains have so much pigment, and the particle sizes are too large; that it will cloud/hide the grain.

I will not recommend Minwax products to anyone!

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#12 posted 09-01-2020 09:23 PM

I AGREE :<((((((((((((((

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#13 posted 09-01-2020 09:50 PM

there is no more minwax anything in my cabinet,the last thing i tossed was their wipe on water based poly,real good crap.ive become a general finishes fan myself.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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trsnider

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#14 posted 09-01-2020 10:01 PM

I’ll have to see if anyone around here carries general finishes. Hate to pay rockler/woodcraft prices, maybe Amazon….

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#15 posted 09-01-2020 10:10 PM

I’m in the same camp as Bandit on this one. Been using Minwax oil based stains for a long time and quite happy with them. Their Gun Stock color on ash or white oak is one of my favorites by far.

Made the mistake of using the polyshades once and tossed the can plus the chair I used it on. Have a few Varathane cans of stain that went in the trash last week.

I have used General finishes oil based stain once in the past for a bare wood bedroom set I got with the ex before I was in to wood working. From what I recall it was a very easy wipe on wipe off stain.

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