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Forum topic by MrGrady0681 posted 08-13-2020 02:45 AM 938 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MrGrady0681

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08-13-2020 02:45 AM

Topic tags/keywords: shaper teacher school jet

Hey guys, I could really use some help. In our woodworking classes we don’t really do much cabinetry or big projects anymore. My school has given me permission to sell our shaper and use the money for some other equipment.

I was hoping to get some advice on how much I should ask for to sell this Jet WSS-3-3 Shaper.


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#1 posted 08-13-2020 03:09 AM

Power feeder included?

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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#2 posted 08-13-2020 10:30 AM

What is the makeof the power feeder? Can you do a close up of it, showing condition of wheels?

I’ve seen that Jet at a few used equipment dealers, in the $700 range (asking price), but you can pick up a Delta HD in that same range, which is a much heavier duty and powerful shaper, with parts available for repairs. The Jet looks in good shape, and I would start sround $700 to $750. The powerfeeder, I would guess, would be another $300 to $400 (again I’ve seen feeders similar in size, at that used price range, but again, that one looks in excellent condition).

Also, three or single phase?

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jar944

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#3 posted 08-13-2020 10:39 AM

$1000 to $1200 to start

If you get $800 (with the feeder) that is reasonable.

Not sure why you want to sell it though. A shaper is one of the most used machines in cabinet and millwork shops. Shaper safely and setups could be a whole semester.

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#4 posted 08-13-2020 11:00 AM

Thanks for the help already! I would include the feeder for sure. It’s three phase. And here are some zoomed in shots of the feeder. I would love to keep it and teach a class just on cabinetry. But I teach at a small school and am the only shop teacher. All of our classes are set up to just introduce kids to different skilled trades. Ive been at this school for four years and we’ve never made it that far.

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#5 posted 08-13-2020 12:06 PM

The feeder is a rebranded comatic 1/4 hp unit. Decent for small work and smaller shapers or router tables. Wheel condition is irrelevant as all the rubber wheels suck after a couple years. Polyurethane wheels from Western roller (or similar company) are the first thing anyone buying a new or used feeder should get.

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#6 posted 08-13-2020 01:15 PM

Sad to see the dismal state of our shop classes in the USA. Our high school dropped it as well.

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#7 posted 08-13-2020 01:35 PM

The woodshop class where my grandson went to school at was pathetic. Bandsaw,tablesaw,planer all had junk piled on them.
All they taught was turning pens on those little tiny pen lathes.

-- Aj

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#8 posted 08-14-2020 12:58 AM

When my youngest was in HS, she said she’d learned far more working with me in my shop than she’d learned in school shop (also all they did was turn pens). Thing if I’ve taught a few young people in my shop woodworking, if they want to learn they’re a joy to work with.
To see someone make a gavel, it’s joyous. Even more so when it’s their idea, they draw up the patterns, make the parts, assemble and finish it.

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#9 posted 08-14-2020 01:04 AM

High school should prepare are kids for a career. Sad to say, not many careers are going to involve tablesaw, bandsaw, and shaper.

Not that they couldn’t learn something, but if budgets are tight, I get why some drop it.

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#10 posted 08-14-2020 02:46 AM

The push to get every high school grad ready for college is leaving behind many who are ill-suited for college, but would benefit greatly from a vocational education, wood shop included.

-- Andy - Arlington TX

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#11 posted 08-14-2020 12:57 PM

Shop classes were not meant to be career training, but more a taste of various things. Vocational training is for a career. If not for woodshop, I would not have this great hobby.. And our VC teaches house framing, not fine woodworking.

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#12 posted 04-23-2021 03:23 PM


Shop classes were not meant to be career training, but more a taste of various things. Vocational training is for a career. If not for woodshop, I would not have this great hobby.. And our VC teaches house framing, not fine woodworking.

- ibewjon

Not always. I spent 3 years in woodshop and another 37 as a career. I spent 3 years taking auto mrchanics at trade schoo , decided not to work on cars for a living…

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#13 posted 04-23-2021 03:27 PM


The woodshop class where my grandson went to school at was pathetic. Bandsaw,tablesaw,planer all had junk piled on them.
All they taught was turning pens on those little tiny pen lathes.

- Aj2

When I took woodshop we had several large lathes with guards. I didn’t take it up but the shop teacher would set you up if you wanted to try. Many thought welding was more fun and messed with it…

That’s he problem with only an hour a day. Hard to get involved…Auto mechanics at trade school was 3 hours in the afternoon.

Personally I would keep the shaper and invest a bit.. teach them raised panel doors..

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#14 posted 04-24-2021 04:26 AM

+1 Keep shaper.

Stop making little stuff. Need to think BIG!
Make each kid produce 100 linear feet of 3/4” Wainscot T&G boards for a wall in shop with hand plane(s).
Then teach them safe way to do it on Shaper. Everyone will want to use the shaper! :)
YMMV

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, Doom, despair, agony on me… - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#15 posted 04-24-2021 09:50 AM

I taught woodshop, metal shop for forty years. The school in the last two years has strengthen the program. I retired six years ago. They start the students out in the fifth grade on a vocational track with the hopes on apprenticeships for the students last year in high school. This is a small high school 600 students but the support from local businesses and trade unions has been fantastic. They are the only school I know of in Indiana that has their own housing addition. The donations and grants just keep coming. They have a signing day for apprenticeships and job offers just like the athletes have for college scholarships it’s awesome. The need is there the program enrollment has exploded.

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