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Bazyliszek

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08-10-2020 05:17 PM

Hello,

I’m looking for a planer that can be moved by 2 people.

With induction motor. 3 cutters.

I’ve come across a few listings in my area, but they weigh 400lbs+

I know lunchbox planers exist, but seeing if there is one that fits my specs.

Otherwise, will end up picking up a used DW735

Thanks!


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CaptainKlutz

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#1 posted 08-10-2020 06:05 PM

Why do you need to pick up a large industrial planer?

Lightest weight 13” Industrial is Delta RC-33, made in US and parts are non-existent, only ~300lbs. lol
Next lightest is Delta 22-675 with open frame. Kind of top heavy, but only 325lbs.
All of the antique PM100 13” or Parks 12”+ are 350-400lbs as they loved cast iron in the old days.
Moving the closed in rectangular frame PM 15 or Grizzly 1021 is easiest to handle, even if they are heaviest models.

BTW – I move 15” four post planers on 2 wheel dolly, single handed most times?
(and I am old retired dude)
Roll up ramp on trailer, roll if off into shop. Will have to remove the extension feed roller on 1 side.

Need to take it downstairs? Rent a refrigerator dolly from Uhaul with stair rollers in back side like this:

Going down is easy part. I person holds from top, one slows the drop on the bottom.
easy peasy.

Going up, need two people pushing and one big guy pulling.

BTW – Uhaul offers moving helper services. 2 hour minimum, $35-70/hr/person; and can always find team willing to move heavy stuff up or downstairs for ~$120. Have your priced beer lately for your friends?
You tell them what to move, and point where.
Sit back and drink favorite cocktail why you watch.
Used the service to load/unload a 5×8 box trailer when daughter moved out of and into another 2nd floor apartment in Arizona summer heat last summer. Was nice to sit back and let others sweat profusely. :-)
Would have cost me two kegs and stack of pizzas, If we used her collegiate friends for move. Not to mention taking 3x longer. Sometimes having professional ‘lumper’s’ (as called in moving industry) is good idea. :-)

#IAMAKLUTZ and slightly crazy, so YMMV

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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Bazyliszek

25 posts in 58 days


#2 posted 08-10-2020 06:21 PM



Why do you need to pick up a large industrial planer?

Lightest weight 13” Industrial is Delta RC-33, made in US and parts are non-existent, only ~300lbs. lol
Next lightest is Delta 22-675 with open frame. Kind of top heavy, but only 325lbs.
All of the antique PM100 13” or Parks 12”+ are 350-400lbs as they loved cast iron in the old days.
Moving the closed in rectangular frame PM 15 or Grizzly 1021 is easiest to handle, even if they are heaviest models.

BTW – I move 15” four post planers on 2 wheel dolly, single handed most times?
(and I am old retired dude)
Roll up ramp on trailer, roll if off into shop. Will have to remove the extension feed roller on 1 side.

Need to take it downstairs? Rent a refrigerator dolly from Uhaul with stair rollers in back side like this:

Going down is easy part. I person holds from top, one slows the drop on the bottom.
easy peasy.

Going up, need two people pushing and one big guy pulling.

BTW – Uhaul offers moving helper services. 2 hour minimum, $35-70/hr/person; and can always find team willing to move heavy stuff up or downstairs for ~$120. Have your priced beer lately for your friends?
You tell them what to move, and point where.
Sit back and drink favorite cocktail why you watch.
Used the service to load/unload a 5×8 box trailer when daughter moved out of and into another 2nd floor apartment in Arizona summer heat last summer. Was nice to sit back and let others sweat profusely. :-)
Would have cost me two kegs and stack of pizzas, If we used her collegiate friends for move. Not to mention taking 3x longer. Sometimes having professional lumper s (as called in moving industry) is good idea. :-)

#IAMAKLUTZ and slightly crazy, so YMMV

Best Luck.

- CaptainKlutz

I need to get one of those dollies.

I think my main problem is fitting these machines in a CRV. I dont have a truck or know anyone with one.

I’ve managed to get a 16” drill press, 14” bandsaw, and 10” table saw with only my CRV, but the planer is proving to be a problem.

People say the lunchbox planers are extremely loud and I like the idea of being able to change out the motors easily and cheaply if they go bad.

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Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 08-10-2020 06:34 PM

There’s a reason people say that lunchbox planers are loud, it’s true! But the 735 may be the king of noise, so if you look at one be sure to run it and see for yourself. As for the motors (on stationary planers) being easy and cheap to change out, well, maybe. It’s probably easier than a benchtop, but some of those motors have a non standard frame making the replacement a real search mission. The often can be easily repaired though, and they don’t go bad all that often. If you look at the stationary planers that have the motor on top (like the Delta design), you can remove the base although hat still leaves you with about 300# to move…but it will fit in the back of your CRV (you may have to make a second trip for the base). But let me suggest something else that will help unload it: an engine hoist. You can get HF models for a reasonable price and they are handy to have around for all sorts of lifting duties….or you can rent one. But finding what you asked for in the thread title likely isn’t possible,

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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therealSteveN

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#4 posted 08-10-2020 06:38 PM


Hello,

I m looking for a planer that can be moved by 2 people.

With induction motor. 3 cutters.

I ve come across a few listings in my area, but they weigh 400lbs+

I know lunchbox planers exist, but seeing if there is one that fits my specs.

Otherwise, will end up picking up a used DW735

Thanks!

- Bazyliszek

If you had a model in mind, you should add it. Most people don’t look at tools by weight.

It would help greatly if you offered a location too.

As to the DeWalt 735’s they are pretty loud, but with a Byrd head in they aren’t a lot louder than my Delta 15” planer, which has straight knives.

About the CRV issue versus truck. It is possible if you bought a 15” machine from someone local, that they may use their truck if you helped load, and unload to deliver it to you? Point is, you don’t know, until you ask.

-- Think safe, be safe

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Bazyliszek

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#5 posted 08-10-2020 06:44 PM



There s a reason people say that lunchbox planers are loud, it s true! But the 735 may be the king of noise, so if you look at one be sure to run it and see for yourself. As for the motors (on stationary planers) being easy and cheap to change out, well, maybe. It s probably easier than a benchtop, but some of those motors have a non standard frame making the replacement a real search mission. The often can be easily repaired though, and they don t go bad all that often. If you look at the stationary planers that have the motor on top (like the Delta design), you can remove the base although hat still leaves you with about 300# to move…but it will fit in the back of your CRV (you may have to make a second trip for the base). But let me suggest something else that will help unload it: an engine hoist. You can get HF models for a reasonable price and they are handy to have around for all sorts of lifting duties….or you can rent one. But finding what you asked for in the thread title likely isn t possible,

- Fred Hargis


There s a reason people say that lunchbox planers are loud, it s true! But the 735 may be the king of noise, so if you look at one be sure to run it and see for yourself. As for the motors (on stationary planers) being easy and cheap to change out, well, maybe. It s probably easier than a benchtop, but some of those motors have a non standard frame making the replacement a real search mission. The often can be easily repaired though, and they don t go bad all that often. If you look at the stationary planers that have the motor on top (like the Delta design), you can remove the base although hat still leaves you with about 300# to move…but it will fit in the back of your CRV (you may have to make a second trip for the base). But let me suggest something else that will help unload it: an engine hoist. You can get HF models for a reasonable price and they are handy to have around for all sorts of lifting duties….or you can rent one. But finding what you asked for in the thread title likely isn t possible,

- Fred Hargis

There’s a Grizzly 1021 planer nearby. If I can find a way to lift it, I’ll probably purchase. He is asking $600, dont know if that’s reasonable.

I’ll look into that hoist at HF.

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Bazyliszek

25 posts in 58 days


#6 posted 08-10-2020 06:46 PM


Hello,

I m looking for a planer that can be moved by 2 people.

With induction motor. 3 cutters.

I ve come across a few listings in my area, but they weigh 400lbs+

I know lunchbox planers exist, but seeing if there is one that fits my specs.

Otherwise, will end up picking up a used DW735

Thanks!

- Bazyliszek

If you had a model in mind, you should add it. Most people don t look at tools by weight.

It would help greatly if you offered a location too.

As to the DeWalt 735 s they are pretty loud, but with a Byrd head in they aren t a lot louder than my Delta 15” planer, which has straight knives.

About the CRV issue versus truck. It is possible if you bought a 15” machine from someone local, that they may use their truck if you helped load, and unload to deliver it to you? Point is, you don t know, until you ask.

- therealSteveN

I wish they were a little closer. About 1.75 hours away, with a Grizzly G1021 :)

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ibewjon

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#7 posted 08-10-2020 06:54 PM

Home depot and Menards rent pickups. By the hour. And appliance dollies as well. But why pick it up? If you have a hitch, rent a u haul trailer. I have a truck, but rented a low u haul trailer and moved a 15” griz planer and Delta 8” long bed jointer at the same time. The only help was the seller helped push both up the ramp. I paid $600 for the planer.

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CaptainKlutz

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#8 posted 08-10-2020 07:03 PM

+1 Industrial tool induction motors don’t fail in a hobby shop, if you take care of your tools.
Rebuild? Yes.
Replace? Never in my 40 years of tools in my shop.

Worst thing that happens is they get noisy and need new bearings ($20 max). If the seals are not tight, and the get loaded with dust; might need new centrifugal switch; but is rare. The Taiwanese motors in most of 15” planer seem to last about 10-15 years before they might need a rebuild. PM used Baldor motor that will last 100 years with new bearings every 15 years.

Now I have bought tools with toasted motors from commercial shop running 16 hours day, 5 days week; but that is a different failure mode – ABUSE due lack of maintenance.

+1 trailer rental if you have hitch. Uhaul rents a 4×8 motorcycle trailer for $15/day with ramp. Perfect for small SUV and 2 tools. I use the motorcycle trailers a lot. Sides are low enough most engine lifts can reach over side too. YMMV

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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AndyJ1s

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#9 posted 08-10-2020 07:08 PM

I would invest in a trailer hitch for your CRV, and rent a small trailer for this. Likely the same place can do both.

A small trailer will have a much lower lift height than your CRV, and more room for more help to maneuver.

A friend of mine bought one of those trailer kits from Northern Tool years ago. That’s his “pickup” bed for trips to the home center or garden shop. Keeps his minivan interior clean and neat.

Ditto on renting or purchasing an engine lift.

-- Andy - Arlington TX

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Bazyliszek

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#10 posted 08-10-2020 08:01 PM

I might be able to find a used lift on classifieds and then rent that motorcycle trailer. Sounds like the best option.

Those lifts sure have a large footprint.

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Fred Hargis

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#11 posted 08-11-2020 10:49 AM

Best to get one that has legs which fold up. Yep, they still take some room….might be best to rent one, they are towed (I think) behind a car.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#12 posted 08-13-2020 10:11 PM

No idea how easy it would be to find but the Shopsmith 12” planer can come as a stand alone unit equipped with an induction motor.
I have one.. Nice feature is it has a separate variable speed feed motor. Helical cutting heads are avaliable if you got the $$ for it.

https://www.shopsmith.com/academy/planing/101402.pdf

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Bazyliszek

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#13 posted 08-14-2020 07:24 PM



No idea how easy it would be to find but the Shopsmith 12” planer can come as a stand alone unit equipped with an induction motor.
I have one.. Nice feature is it has a separate variable speed feed motor. Helical cutting heads are avaliable if you got the $$ for it.

https://www.shopsmith.com/academy/planing/101402.pdf

- Polar_ted

Seems underpowered at 1/20HP, if I read that correctly.

It looks like I could take one from a shop Smith setup or get a stand alone one. Havent seen the stand alone one listed anywhere locally

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StevenWoodward

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#14 posted 08-23-2020 12:23 AM

RC-33 weighs 260 pounds without a stand.

There are four holes in the base, two at each end of planer. Steel rods, that came with the machine, go into these holes to create “handles” so that the machine can be carried by two strong people. The rods that came with machine have a groove on one end to receive a circlip ring. The circlip ring goes inside the casting so that the handles don’t slip out.

The easiest thing to remove is the motor along with the cast motor mount and cast belt housing – just 2 bolts and off it comes. That should knock the weight down quite a bit.

RC-33 is a great planer and can be upgraded to a Byrd Shelix cutter head which makes it a state of the art planer. Nothing better on the market today in this size planer.

For RC-33 restoration including: instruction manuals, parts list, YouTube video, cleaning, lubrication, adjustment, and optional upgrade to Byrd Shelix helical segment cutter head, check out this post: LumberJocks

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