Just like the title says, I want to see pictures of the 5" dust collection fittings YOU used in your shop!
Not, 3 inch, 4 inch, or 6 inch; but 5 INCH!
Plastic? Metal? Home made?
Let's see those:
T-junctions, Y-junctions, Size adapters, blast gates, hose fittings, and machine ports.
Lot's of machine ports please! Post them ALL!
Background: (If you care)
All the published literature on dust collection says you should use the largest duct size your dust collector can safely maintain proper duct velocity to avoid clogs. While most 1.5-2HP dust collectors come with 6" inlet port, most can not keep with minimum velocity required with long pipe runs, or even short 6" spiral hose due SP loss. Using 5" seems to be the sweet spot for overall performance.
Onieda offers a SDD that has a 5 inch inlet port to help optimize dust collection in shop. But why do they show adapters to 4in to choke the air flow, and reduce dust collection?
https://www.oneida-air.com/media/wysiwyg/static/Products/super-dust-deputy-inlet-size-reducer-comparison.png
Because there has been a lack of 5" dust collection options in the market!
Doesn't help that majority hobby machine ports are 4", and everyone seems to think that using 4" is OK, when it is bare minimum for most machines?
Where are the aftermarket 5" machine ports?
Really, where are they hiding? The only thing stopping me using a 5" system is lack machine port solutions. If I could find an off shelf 5" machine port like the 4" molded versions, I would use them. Want all of my larger tools; Table saw, 8" jointer, 15" & 20" planer (have OEM 5" port), router table, 17" bandsaw (need a 5in to (2) 4in for last two), edge belt sander, etc; to use a 5" hose connection back to DC.
For past couple of decades, moved shops way too often to install permanent duct work. So I roll my dust collector between machines with a single 4" hose hookup, using the Rockcrap Dust Right hose fitting for quick changes between tools. When I added a 15" planer, the 4" hose and dust collector struggles to keep up with chips generated, unless the hose is as straight as possible back to impeller. Recently added a 20" planer, and now I see slow moving dust jams and know I need to upgrade to 5" hose. When I added edge belt sander, realized the 4" port did not have enough volume to remove the dust properly either (thanks to dust cloud around me). Still can't figure out why mfg continue to put a little 4" port on most machines? sigh.
Sure you can find a local HVAC duct shop to make you fittings, but the ones I find locally don't want to make me one fitting at a time for next new machine without minimum charge. Their version of machine port is plate with 3" 26ga tube sticking out it, with little crimps that leak air really bad. DC hose crushes the thin metal. Can always order online from Oneida or Spiral at cost of $15-25 per fitting, but that seems just as ridiculous?
Are there any no affordable 5" dust collection bits?
The only retail choice of 5" fittings I have seen is at Woodcraft, but they are all made to connect to to a 5" HOSE, not machine ports I own.
Here is the list I found:
Woodcraft recently added a 5" flex hose end cuff, what ever that is?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-flexible-hose-end-cuff-woodriver-dust-connection?
Threaded end for hose, but it doesn't fit any 5 ports I have tried without heating stretching it wider?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-inch-quick-connect-theaded-dust-collection-fitting?
How about a 5 to 4 reducer that is same size 5" machine port?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-to-4-reducer-dust-collection-fitting?
These fittings all required connections with spiral hose, or the more expensive Fernco couplers:
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-inch-x-5-inch-x-5-inch-y-dust-collection-fitting?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5in-x-5in-x-5in-t-dust-collection-fitting?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-inch-abs-basic-blast-gate-dust-collection-fitting?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-inch-aluminum-blast-gate-dust-collection-fitting?
The fittings from Oneida have OD made to fit hose, not an ID to attach to machine port:
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/oneida-air-systems-metal-6in-to-5in-reducer-dust-collection-fitting?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/oneida-air-systems-metal-straight-5in-to-4in-reducer-dust-fitting?
Here is my list of 5" couplers I found and tried for connections:
https://www.fernco.com/dimensional-drawings/plumbing/flexible-couplings/stock-couplings-1060/1060-44
5.01 to 5.01 ID (4" plastic socket to socket)
https://www.fernco.com/dimensional-drawings/plumbing/flexible-couplings/stock-couplings-1001/1001-44
5.29 to 5.29 ID (4" clay pipe OD)
https://www.fernco.com/dimensional-drawings/plumbing/flexible-couplings/stock-couplings-1056/1056-55
5.51 to 5.51 ID (5" Cast iron or PVC pipe OD)
To get machine port pictures started, here is some I have in my shop:
A 5" machine port on Delta 15" planer with 4" hose adapter:
A 5" port on Jet JWP-208 20" planer:
Join the fun!
Share your 5" dust collection solution, PLEASE!
Thanks for reading
Apologies if it sounds like am complaining. Purpose is to share solutions.
Cheers!
Not, 3 inch, 4 inch, or 6 inch; but 5 INCH!
Plastic? Metal? Home made?
Let's see those:
T-junctions, Y-junctions, Size adapters, blast gates, hose fittings, and machine ports.
Lot's of machine ports please! Post them ALL!
Background: (If you care)
All the published literature on dust collection says you should use the largest duct size your dust collector can safely maintain proper duct velocity to avoid clogs. While most 1.5-2HP dust collectors come with 6" inlet port, most can not keep with minimum velocity required with long pipe runs, or even short 6" spiral hose due SP loss. Using 5" seems to be the sweet spot for overall performance.
Onieda offers a SDD that has a 5 inch inlet port to help optimize dust collection in shop. But why do they show adapters to 4in to choke the air flow, and reduce dust collection?
https://www.oneida-air.com/media/wysiwyg/static/Products/super-dust-deputy-inlet-size-reducer-comparison.png
Because there has been a lack of 5" dust collection options in the market!
Doesn't help that majority hobby machine ports are 4", and everyone seems to think that using 4" is OK, when it is bare minimum for most machines?
Where are the aftermarket 5" machine ports?
Really, where are they hiding? The only thing stopping me using a 5" system is lack machine port solutions. If I could find an off shelf 5" machine port like the 4" molded versions, I would use them. Want all of my larger tools; Table saw, 8" jointer, 15" & 20" planer (have OEM 5" port), router table, 17" bandsaw (need a 5in to (2) 4in for last two), edge belt sander, etc; to use a 5" hose connection back to DC.
For past couple of decades, moved shops way too often to install permanent duct work. So I roll my dust collector between machines with a single 4" hose hookup, using the Rockcrap Dust Right hose fitting for quick changes between tools. When I added a 15" planer, the 4" hose and dust collector struggles to keep up with chips generated, unless the hose is as straight as possible back to impeller. Recently added a 20" planer, and now I see slow moving dust jams and know I need to upgrade to 5" hose. When I added edge belt sander, realized the 4" port did not have enough volume to remove the dust properly either (thanks to dust cloud around me). Still can't figure out why mfg continue to put a little 4" port on most machines? sigh.
Sure you can find a local HVAC duct shop to make you fittings, but the ones I find locally don't want to make me one fitting at a time for next new machine without minimum charge. Their version of machine port is plate with 3" 26ga tube sticking out it, with little crimps that leak air really bad. DC hose crushes the thin metal. Can always order online from Oneida or Spiral at cost of $15-25 per fitting, but that seems just as ridiculous?
Are there any no affordable 5" dust collection bits?
The only retail choice of 5" fittings I have seen is at Woodcraft, but they are all made to connect to to a 5" HOSE, not machine ports I own.
Here is the list I found:
Woodcraft recently added a 5" flex hose end cuff, what ever that is?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-flexible-hose-end-cuff-woodriver-dust-connection?
Threaded end for hose, but it doesn't fit any 5 ports I have tried without heating stretching it wider?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-inch-quick-connect-theaded-dust-collection-fitting?
How about a 5 to 4 reducer that is same size 5" machine port?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-to-4-reducer-dust-collection-fitting?
These fittings all required connections with spiral hose, or the more expensive Fernco couplers:
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-inch-x-5-inch-x-5-inch-y-dust-collection-fitting?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5in-x-5in-x-5in-t-dust-collection-fitting?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-inch-abs-basic-blast-gate-dust-collection-fitting?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5-inch-aluminum-blast-gate-dust-collection-fitting?
The fittings from Oneida have OD made to fit hose, not an ID to attach to machine port:
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/oneida-air-systems-metal-6in-to-5in-reducer-dust-collection-fitting?
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/oneida-air-systems-metal-straight-5in-to-4in-reducer-dust-fitting?
Here is my list of 5" couplers I found and tried for connections:
https://www.fernco.com/dimensional-drawings/plumbing/flexible-couplings/stock-couplings-1060/1060-44
5.01 to 5.01 ID (4" plastic socket to socket)
https://www.fernco.com/dimensional-drawings/plumbing/flexible-couplings/stock-couplings-1001/1001-44
5.29 to 5.29 ID (4" clay pipe OD)
https://www.fernco.com/dimensional-drawings/plumbing/flexible-couplings/stock-couplings-1056/1056-55
5.51 to 5.51 ID (5" Cast iron or PVC pipe OD)
To get machine port pictures started, here is some I have in my shop:
A 5" machine port on Delta 15" planer with 4" hose adapter:
A 5" port on Jet JWP-208 20" planer:
Join the fun!
Share your 5" dust collection solution, PLEASE!
Thanks for reading
Apologies if it sounds like am complaining. Purpose is to share solutions.
Cheers!