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2Goober

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08-06-2020 04:19 PM

I am going to make a small jointer style workbench (4.5’X22”X 4” thick). I am going to use kiln dried beech. I have the 4/4 on hand and would have to purchase 8/4. I’ve got a good supplier so I’d just have to go pick some up.
1. Would there be any advantage in using 8/4 instead of 4/4 lumber.
2. I’m thinking of making the split top style or should stick with a simple flat top?
3. I need a good source for the front vice.
4. Also…..what is the most popular dog hole size?


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LittleBlackDuck

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#1 posted 08-07-2020 01:58 PM

  1. Yes and no.
  2. Yes.
  3. Tomato.
  4. 2 paws.
The choice of workbench should be yours… Ask that question here and your get 3 options for each responder.
  • 1 for what they had.
  • 1 for what they now have.
  • 1 for what they should have had.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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controlfreak

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#2 posted 08-07-2020 02:22 PM

I am going with the Moravian bench build because I can break it down if needed. It looks like a fun build and will laminate SYP for the top. Wagon vise on the end and a wooden leg vise on the front. A tool tray on the back side. I have a small shop so the size appeals. I think the most common dog holes are 3/4” but others may correct me if I am wrong. For the leg vise I am going to make it and buy the screw from https://www.lakeerietoolworks.com/

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Aj2

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#3 posted 08-07-2020 02:28 PM

I’m thinking there will be less glue lines if you use 8/4. Too me that’s a good thing. But if you want to practice your laminating technique the 4 / 4 will . Split top sound nice until your best tools drops on the floor.
Good Luck

-- Aj

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CaptainKlutz

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#4 posted 08-07-2020 02:47 PM

1) 8/4 is less lamination work. 8/4 lumber often has less bow, twist, cup, and warp; meaning less work getting things flat before lamination. It takes flat, straight boards to make a flat bench top.

2) +1 split top looks cool, until tools hit the floor.

3) To many vise types can be used as ‘front vise’ to suggest one brand. Do you want under mount, leg mount, or face mount? What about quick release? Lots of options inside each type.

4) Most common dog hole size? No clue.
Most common size of store bought dog hole accessories is 3/4” in USA, 20mm in EU.

I made my bench top using beech.
Nice wood for bench top.

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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Sylvain

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#5 posted 08-08-2020 10:18 AM

If you laminate 2 X 4, the boards will be flexible enough to do it even if they are not perfectly straight.
See Paul Sellers Video:
https://paulsellers.com/2012/06/how-to-build-a-workbench-video-with-paul-sellers-part-1/

With 4 X 4, you will need extra strong sash clamps. (read the free PDF book from Chris Schwarz on His Lost Art Press site)
https://blog.lostartpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/AWB_Consumer_June-2020_v5.1-1.pdf

With 8 X 4 you will have to mate the boards.
There is an interesting Japanese technique to do that: “suriawase”
Look at pictures 2 and 3 here:
http://blog.douglasbrooksboatbuilding.com/2019/04/2019-bates-college-short-term.html
This ensure a perfect mating, even if the boards edges are not perfectly straight.
machinery variant:
http://blog.douglasbrooksboatbuilding.com/2015/05/suriawase-revelation.html

Paul Sellers and Chris Schwarz have very different views on the “perfect” workbench.
If you need a workbench which can be assembled/knocked down in less than 2 minutes, The Moravian workbench is the way to go.
The Paul Sellers workbench can be knocked down if one need to move.
The Chris Schwarz workbench is not designed with this in view.

-- Sylvain, Brussels, Belgium, Europe - The more I learn, the more there is to learn

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