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Forum topic by OldBull posted 08-05-2020 08:51 PM 1209 views 0 times favorited 24 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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OldBull

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08-05-2020 08:51 PM

I am not that old but have arthritis, I need an easy pusher which in the end might be in my favor so I have to learn to use it right and set it up and sharpen it right. I doubt It will ever be Rob Cosman on a Lie Nielson but maybe I can get it to work acceptably. The shavings are from me, a complete no nothing about planes (except I use to work on avionics). No fidling with anything just brought it home, lowered it a bit and put it on a pine board and tore the cr*p out of the grain, it looked more like a rug when I was finished. I just wanted a starting point.

It is mildly rusted on bottom and sides and on the blade and mechanisms,
no patents,
steel thumb wheel,
chrome lever cap,
blade looks like it was used by a concrete guy,
dark wooden handles
No cracks
Made in England not USA,
The last pic is after 20 seconds on 600 grit automotive wet dry on 3/4” melomine.

Thanks for the opinions .
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-- My favorite square is 40 grit sandpaper


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theoldfart

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#1 posted 08-05-2020 09:09 PM

An English Stanley is a fine candidate for restoration. The mouth appears a little low, a few more swipes on you abrasive. Will tell you how much needs to come off. If after a minute or two you don’t see a visible improvement you may need to rethink. A lot more knowledgeable folks should chime in so see what they have to say.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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LittleShaver

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#2 posted 08-05-2020 09:35 PM

Sounds like you may have planed against the grain. If you can get shavings without restoring it, it’s going to be great once you get it flat and sharp. It looks way better than some of the rust heaps I’ve rescued.

Once you get it all cleaned up and sharp, be sure to wax or oil the bottom. Good coat of wax + light cut = easy push.

-- Sawdust Maker

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OldBull

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#3 posted 08-05-2020 09:36 PM

I was actually on 1000 grit, i put down 600 grit for about 30 seconds on this one.
Thanks for the help so far.
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-- My favorite square is 40 grit sandpaper

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#4 posted 08-05-2020 10:51 PM

Short answer: Yes, worth rehabbing.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. - OldTools Archive -

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bandit571

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#5 posted 08-05-2020 10:53 PM

When you take the iron off the chipbreaker….sight down the length of the iron’s side,,,not the cutting edge…and see IF the iron has a curve to it. Sometimes, after being clamped up tight for too long..it will bend the iron a bit.

Simple fix. ...Lay the iron on the bench, with the high part of the curve up….Mallet to pound it flat ( metal hammers leave marks/dimples) Keep sighting along the length..repeat until the iron is straight/flat…

Also, while you’re at it with the sandpaper..the underside of the lever cap could use a bit….smooth the rough casting to where it will sit down nicely….will also improve the “grip” it has on the chipbreaker. You won’t have to crank the lever cap’s bolt down as hard….makes adjusting the depth easier, too.

Too fine of sandpaper on the sole….maybe start at 100, or 150 grit…..it’ll take forever if you just “polish” it flat with the higher grits.

BTW: I happen to have, and use a Made in England No.4c….no issues.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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SMP

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#6 posted 08-06-2020 12:15 AM

Absolutely worth sharpening. And watch this video, Paul Sellers demonstrates that a properly SHARPENED and tuned old Stanley barely needs any effort to push(great for your arthritis), he also discusses bench heights which probably pertain to you as well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hJHrSmZQx10

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BurlyBob

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#7 posted 08-06-2020 01:45 AM

If you don’t want to mess around with it I’ll give you what you paid for it and shipping.

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OldBull

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#8 posted 08-06-2020 12:36 PM

Thanks for the help, I have decided to clean it and tune it up but not go overboard with a restoration. I am going to knock the rust off, touch up where neccessary and learn to sharpen and tune.

Bandit571 I did have to use your suggestion on the blade and the underside of the levercap.

-- My favorite square is 40 grit sandpaper

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bandit571

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#9 posted 08-06-2020 01:51 PM

Pictures when you get it done….

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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OldBull

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#10 posted 08-06-2020 03:27 PM

Help !!!!

Where does the single very thin washer go. I had paid close attention I thought but ended up with a thin .02 washer that has an ID of .24 and and od of .42

Anyone know ???

-- My favorite square is 40 grit sandpaper

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bandit571

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#11 posted 08-06-2020 03:33 PM

Usually under one of the handle bolts. Sometimes, you’ll even find a lock washer down in the top hole…

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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OSU55

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#12 posted 08-06-2020 03:38 PM

Definitely worth user level refurb. Link to my hand plane tuning blog.

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bandit571

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#13 posted 08-06-2020 06:36 PM

My English Stanley-Bailey 12-004c

Side view..

Sole is a well-traveled one…

Bailey?

Wondering if I should swap handles?

Or, would that make these both Francken Planes?

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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oltexasboy1

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#14 posted 08-06-2020 07:55 PM

I am old , turned 70 yesterday, and got lots of arthritis and my #4 & #41/2 are my favorite user planes. I did however buy a Hock blade for them . Sharp, quality, blades are what makes planes easy movers. and a little wax on the bottom before each use. From the look of your blade they need throwed out and replaced. Enjoy

-- "The pursuit of perfection often yields excellence"

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OldBull

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#15 posted 08-07-2020 12:39 PM

How do you order a blade, what size or nomenclature do I use if I want to upgrade the blade.

P.S. Does wax effect finish, oils, stains etc ?

-- My favorite square is 40 grit sandpaper

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