Who is that guy ( woodworkingdfgh ) he have many other address and they all lied to Ted woodworking to buy a book with thousands of plan and i wonder where the plans come from. Does anyone know him ????
I don't see a problem with that as long as they don't try to sell them.I, like many others, deplore Ted s history of ripping off plans from numerous Internet sources and then trying to sell them for profit. What I find ironic is reading that some who deplore Ted s tactics apparently felt that it was just fine to download all of Ted s stuff once his website had been hacked and links were posted.
- Kazooman
maybe but im sure a lot of those plans were created by people that spent a lot of time designing and creating drawings and cut lists,which many sell.only the author has the right to give them away.I, like many others, deplore Ted s history of ripping off plans from numerous Internet sources and then trying to sell them for profit. What I find ironic is reading that some who deplore Ted s tactics apparently felt that it was just fine to download all of Ted s stuff once his website had been hacked and links were posted.
- Kazooman
I don't see a problem with that as long as they don't try to sell them.
- RCCinNC
True,, but once on the net it's fair game, right or wrong. I'm not particularly familiar with the Ted issue, but I know anything I, or anyone else posts is open to be copied, plans drawn up, (if not already posted by the LJ contributor) and offered for sale. Ethical? Hell no. But actionable only as far as someone's willing to sue over intellectual property rights.I, like many others, deplore Ted s history of ripping off plans from numerous Internet sources and then trying to sell them for profit. What I find ironic is reading that some who deplore Ted s tactics apparently felt that it was just fine to download all of Ted s stuff once his website had been hacked and links were posted.
- Kazooman
I don't see a problem with that as long as they don't try to sell them.
- RCCinNC
maybe but im sure a lot of those plans were created by people that spent a lot of time designing and creating drawings and cut lists,which many sell.only the author has the right to give them away.
- pottz
your right once those birds get out the cage there free too fly so too speak,but if ted hadn't ripped people off in the first place it would have never happened.it's a shame a guy like that gets away scot free.I, like many others, deplore Ted s history of ripping off plans from numerous Internet sources and then trying to sell them for profit. What I find ironic is reading that some who deplore Ted s tactics apparently felt that it was just fine to download all of Ted s stuff once his website had been hacked and links were posted.
- Kazooman
I don't see a problem with that as long as they don't try to sell them.
- RCCinNC
maybe but im sure a lot of those plans were created by people that spent a lot of time designing and creating drawings and cut lists,which many sell.only the author has the right to give them away.
- pottz
True,, but once on the net it's fair game, right or wrong. I'm not particularly familiar with the Ted issue, but I know anything I, or anyone else posts is open to be copied, plans drawn up, (if not already posted by the LJ contributor) and offered for sale. Ethical? Hell no. But actionable only as far as someone's willing to sue over intellectual property rights.
Not really an answer to download issues, but the damage has already been done. According to Woodknack, a lot of these plans could have been lost forever. Being able to preserve them is definitely an upside….sadly I suspect many of the designs origins have been lost.
But yeah…the whole thing definitely stinks.
- RCCinNC
Slow down, I didn't hack any website. Not sure what hacking Klutz is referring to but the plans I downloaded were on tedswoodworking,com in the clear, all you needed was the url. Now whether it was the original Ted or a copycat Ted I don't know or care. And how am I "stealing" when the plans were all free on the internet in the first place. Woodworkers and businesses shared those plans to the benefit of the woodworking community. I'm not sure that collecting plans offered freely on the internet is a crime, I've been doing that myself for a couple decades, the scummy part was selling them. I think you should reconsider who you are calling a criminal, owning free plans isn't breaking any ethics, selling other people's plans is unethical.Well, call me a Pollyanna for wanting everyone to follow the same rules. Ted steals from others - bad. Steal from Ted - just fine since he is a reprobate. Think carefully about your position on this. Either you are OK with hacking into a website to download the contents or you are against this. In my mind it doesn't really matter what the content of the website is, it is the act of illegally downloading the content that is a problem. All players are dong wrong.
- Kazooman
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- plastichead96
Did I say you stole any plans? I do not believe that I did. What I said was some felt is was OK to download all of Ted's stuff once his site had been hacked and the link had been posted. Both of my posts referenced hacking into websites. Go back and read them. If that doesn't apply to you then take your indignation elsewhere. I think you should reconsider who you are accusing of calling you a criminal.Well, call me a Pollyanna for wanting everyone to follow the same rules. Ted steals from others - bad. Steal from Ted - just fine since he is a reprobate. Think carefully about your position on this. Either you are OK with hacking into a website to download the contents or you are against this. In my mind it doesn't really matter what the content of the website is, it is the act of illegally downloading the content that is a problem. All players are dong wrong.
- Kazooman
Slow down, I didn t hack any website. Not sure what hacking Klutz is referring to but the plans I downloaded were on tedswoodworking,com in the clear, all you needed was the url. Now whether it was the original Ted or a copycat Ted I don t know or care. And how am I "stealing" when the plans were all free on the internet in the first place. Woodworkers and businesses shared those plans to the benefit of the woodworking community. I m not sure that collecting plans offered freely on the internet is a crime, I ve been doing that myself for a couple decades, the scummy part was selling them. I think you should reconsider who you are calling a criminal, owning free plans isn t breaking any ethics, selling other people s plans is unethical.
- Woodknack
+1 on both of your posts. I hold in high regard people who think, read and write - good jobWell, call me a Pollyanna for wanting everyone to follow the same rules. Ted steals from others - bad. Steal from Ted - just fine since he is a reprobate. Think carefully about your position on this. Either you are OK with hacking into a website to download the contents or you are against this. In my mind it doesn't really matter what the content of the website is, it is the act of illegally downloading the content that is a problem. All players are dong wrong.
- Kazooman
Slow down, I didn t hack any website. Not sure what hacking Klutz is referring to but the plans I downloaded were on tedswoodworking,com in the clear, all you needed was the url. Now whether it was the original Ted or a copycat Ted I don t know or care. And how am I "stealing" when the plans were all free on the internet in the first place. Woodworkers and businesses shared those plans to the benefit of the woodworking community. I m not sure that collecting plans offered freely on the internet is a crime, I ve been doing that myself for a couple decades, the scummy part was selling them. I think you should reconsider who you are calling a criminal, owning free plans isn t breaking any ethics, selling other people s plans is unethical.
- Woodknack
Did I say you stole any plans? I do not believe that I did. What I said was some felt is was OK to download all of Ted's stuff once his site had been hacked and the link had been posted. Both of my posts referenced hacking into websites. Go back and read them. If that doesn't apply to you then take your indignation elsewhere. I think you should reconsider who you are accusing of calling you a criminal.
- Kazooman
Haha! DW! How'd you escape!? ; ) For some reason I have this image of you jumping a fence on a motorcycle.May I suggest posting "Who is Ted" on LJocks forum "Corona Crazy" for they have an Australian named Little Black Duck who could give more insight on who is Ted and it is rumored that Little Black Duck may actually be "TED"
Just say in
- Desert_Woodworker