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08-03-2020 09:28 PM

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Who is that guy ( woodworkingdfgh ) he have many other address and they all lied to Ted woodworking to buy a book with thousands of plan and i wonder where the plans come from. Does anyone know him ????

-- Luc, Gatineau Quebec


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#1 posted 08-03-2020 09:29 PM

He’s a tool for spammers.

-- Aj

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#2 posted 08-03-2020 09:44 PM

He isn’t worth knowing!

TonyC

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#3 posted 08-03-2020 09:46 PM

Delete, delete, delete. Do not open

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#4 posted 08-04-2020 06:09 AM

The plans were stolen from the world wide web back in the early days, some from lumber or woodworking companies (like Minwax, etc.), some from amateurs, probably a bunch came from the now defunct geocities. A link to the plans was posted a couple years ago and I downloaded them. There were 3+ copies of many plans, many partial plans, a bunch of farm building plans, and a few interesting plans someone might want to build. The upside is he preserved a lot of plans that have since been deleted from the internet and probably would have been lost forever.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#5 posted 08-04-2020 08:32 AM

Here is how I remember the history of Ted’s Woodworking:

Was around when Ted first started selling his plans, forget the time frame, late 90’s maybe? There used to be a real person attached to offer, he took out classified ads in back of magazines spending money to advertise his product.

As internet blossomed into every home in world, everyone had access to basic script hacking tools, and learned how to bypass not secure htp based login that Ted used. When it was discovered that Ted’s download site was not very secure, direct download links for his plans were all over the internet. Like WoodKnack above, I downloaded a copy too. It was full of duplicates, bad photo copy images, and every free plan from every woodworking magazine known. Clone archives of Ted’s Plans get re-posted periodically since then, each time with different download site.

One can debate if Ted’s time/energy spent collating several thousand plans from public domain is a salable product, and if it is worth paying for it; but that is mute point in current century version of WWW. Once the content was available online, many other folks decided they wanted to make money too by selling Ted’s Woodworking Plans, and THE beginning of Ted’s woodworking scams, fraud mass mailing, and click bait on web pages become rampant.

The present day incarnation of Ted’s Woodworking on CD is now a glorious pyramid scheme. At top level you have someone (Ted still?) selling CD’s of the plan collection. That company pays affiliates to market the CD on web sites and help bring new customers to buy the CD. The spammers have two ways to generate money from advertising the plans. First, if affiliate sends someone who buys a CD, then get a commission on sale (thanks to cookies in your browser). Second; they get paid if you simply click the link and visit the site. This last way to make money is a big problem, not just for wood working, as this is way ALL internet advertising works these days I.E ‘pay for clicks’. it is billion dollar industry and is how Facebook makes money from advertisers.
The result is wanna-be internet millionaires figured out they can make several hundred dollars a month (0.005 to 0.001 cents per click), by simply blasting their affiliate ID into WWW, by any and all means possible. Many folks scam more than one companies products as affiliate and can make enough to pay the rent (in third world country), but I digress.

Ted’s scams have been abusing LJ for many months. If you don’t know about the problem, look here.

One of the common scams was spoofing a known web site email address that caters to wood workers, and making a special fake physical address and website that makes buying plans look legit from the original site. Woodgears was a victum of this torture, and has a nice write up on Ted’s Woodworking:
https://woodgears.ca/ted/index.html

Thanks for reading.
My apologies if I messed the exact event time line.
AND NEVER ever click a link inside an email, without first verifying the source is real; and the link is not dangerous.

Be Safe, Not Sorry!

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#6 posted 08-04-2020 02:47 PM

youve been here a long time im surprised you dont know that name,he’s caused a lot of problems here,definitely enemy #1 for cricket.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#7 posted 08-04-2020 04:14 PM

It confirm what i have been thinking for a long time. I close those pages as soon as they pop up and show it is from Ted. I dont like to see creative woodworkers like us loose the credit of there work. I am proud to share my knowledge and present my projects to people like you and teach how to do.

-- Luc, Gatineau Quebec

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#8 posted 08-04-2020 04:37 PM

A heinous creature, they say if you dare stare into his eyes you will see the devil himself wearing plaid

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#9 posted 08-04-2020 09:40 PM

Thank you captain klutz i just finish reading on woodgears page and what happen to him with Ted.

This is the kind of email they send http woodworkersjornal as you can see the u in journal is not there it is close to woodworkersjournal.com. I received that just last week and did not open it because of the u missing . some other time they ad a s to journal.

-- Luc, Gatineau Quebec

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#10 posted 08-04-2020 10:10 PM

all this ted talk is makin my skin crawl !!!!

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#11 posted 08-04-2020 10:15 PM

I, like many others, deplore Ted’s history of ripping off plans from numerous Internet sources and then trying to sell them for profit. What I find ironic is reading that some who deplore Ted’s tactics apparently felt that it was just fine to download all of Ted’s stuff once his website had been hacked and links were posted.

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#12 posted 08-04-2020 10:21 PM



I, like many others, deplore Ted s history of ripping off plans from numerous Internet sources and then trying to sell them for profit. What I find ironic is reading that some who deplore Ted s tactics apparently felt that it was just fine to download all of Ted s stuff once his website had been hacked and links were posted.

- Kazooman


I don’t see a problem with that as long as they don’t try to sell them.

-- Live to putter...putter to live!

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#13 posted 08-04-2020 10:26 PM


I, like many others, deplore Ted s history of ripping off plans from numerous Internet sources and then trying to sell them for profit. What I find ironic is reading that some who deplore Ted s tactics apparently felt that it was just fine to download all of Ted s stuff once his website had been hacked and links were posted.

- Kazooman

I don’t see a problem with that as long as they don’t try to sell them.

- RCCinNC


maybe but im sure a lot of those plans were created by people that spent a lot of time designing and creating drawings and cut lists,which many sell.only the author has the right to give them away.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#14 posted 08-04-2020 10:51 PM

I, like many others, deplore Ted s history of ripping off plans from numerous Internet sources and then trying to sell them for profit. What I find ironic is reading that some who deplore Ted s tactics apparently felt that it was just fine to download all of Ted s stuff once his website had been hacked and links were posted.

- Kazooman

I don’t see a problem with that as long as they don’t try to sell them.

- RCCinNC

maybe but im sure a lot of those plans were created by people that spent a lot of time designing and creating drawings and cut lists,which many sell.only the author has the right to give them away.

- pottz

True,, but once on the net it’s fair game, right or wrong. I’m not particularly familiar with the Ted issue, but I know anything I, or anyone else posts is open to be copied, plans drawn up, (if not already posted by the LJ contributor) and offered for sale. Ethical? Hell no. But actionable only as far as someone’s willing to sue over intellectual property rights.
Not really an answer to download issues, but the damage has already been done. According to Woodknack, a lot of these plans could have been lost forever. Being able to preserve them is definitely an upside….sadly I suspect many of the designs origins have been lost.

But yeah…the whole thing definitely stinks.

-- Live to putter...putter to live!

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#15 posted 08-05-2020 12:51 AM


I, like many others, deplore Ted s history of ripping off plans from numerous Internet sources and then trying to sell them for profit. What I find ironic is reading that some who deplore Ted s tactics apparently felt that it was just fine to download all of Ted s stuff once his website had been hacked and links were posted.

- Kazooman

I don’t see a problem with that as long as they don’t try to sell them.

- RCCinNC

maybe but im sure a lot of those plans were created by people that spent a lot of time designing and creating drawings and cut lists,which many sell.only the author has the right to give them away.

- pottz

True,, but once on the net it’s fair game, right or wrong. I’m not particularly familiar with the Ted issue, but I know anything I, or anyone else posts is open to be copied, plans drawn up, (if not already posted by the LJ contributor) and offered for sale. Ethical? Hell no. But actionable only as far as someone’s willing to sue over intellectual property rights.
Not really an answer to download issues, but the damage has already been done. According to Woodknack, a lot of these plans could have been lost forever. Being able to preserve them is definitely an upside….sadly I suspect many of the designs origins have been lost.

But yeah…the whole thing definitely stinks.

- RCCinNC


your right once those birds get out the cage there free too fly so too speak,but if ted hadn’t ripped people off in the first place it would have never happened.it’s a shame a guy like that gets away scot free.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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